Why are the richest in the US getting another tax break?
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you're fucking retarded
like I said that was not my argument....stupid fuck read, then read again, then re-read then jump off a cliff and you might be able to figure out what I said and I am not a republican fuckwad
funny because when I was making 30k/year I was able to buy shit I wanted (granted not everything but still I bought shit) i owned a car(notice i say own not having a loan payment) spent 50-100 bucks couple times a week at my local shit hole bar, bought stocked, invested in my company 401k, went on vacations, had no credit card debt.
STOP making excuses because people are to greedy and have $150 cell phone bills, 400 car payments, have a mortgage they can't afford, maxout their Best Buy credit card and then spend whatever is left over on affliction and true religion then bitch about having to live paycheck to paycheck.
income isn't the issue, not knowing how to budget is the problem.
FYI I only make 45k from my salaried job and now I own 2 cars paid off my mortgage will be paid within 7 years and I support not myself anymore but two kids and a wife. (nothing to brag about just pointing out that budgeting makes life easier) The problem is when you pay check increases by 10% spending increases by 30%
I'm only 24 and had budgeting figured out by the time I was 16 not my problem if some dumb ass can't do basic math.
America is control by big corporation. Not the people.
so what?? Of course they will protect the rich people. People who owns the big cooperation. If they see this thread , what would they say?
"stop whining, and get your ass up and go make online monies" .
PS: capitalism , the rich will become richer . The poor will become poorer. It's a system that's suck big time. ROFL
PPS: doesn't mean to offend anyone.
so what?? Of course they will protect the rich people. People who owns the big cooperation. If they see this thread , what would they say?
"stop whining, and get your ass up and go make online monies" .
PS: capitalism , the rich will become richer . The poor will become poorer. It's a system that's suck big time. ROFL
PPS: doesn't mean to offend anyone.
America is control by big corporation. Not the people.
so what?? Of course they will protect the rich people. People who owns the big cooperation. If they see this thread , what would they say?
"stop whining, and get your ass up and go make online monies" .
PS: capitalism , the rich will become richer . The poor will become poorer. It's a system that's suck big time. ROFL
PPS: doesn't mean to offend anyone.
Shut the fuck up cunt.
How the fuck do you know capitalism doesn't work? There's never been a system in which there was absolute capitalism. There probably will never be one. The only way to have absolute capitalism is to have a very small decentralized government because there will always be cunts lobbying the government.
And who the fuck cares what "works" better. Socialism = being a bitch to authority and losing your freedom for so called security.
Women want security - which is why they vote for the Liberal/Democrat party more than men.
So are you a woman Johnny? Are Yah?
I work with intelligent people all the time who are poor. What generally happens is something like this: The kid is very, very intelligent. But because he comes from a house that doesn't understand the value system and educational system of the US, he doesn't push himself to be in the "right classes." He doesn't apply to the "right colleges." He doesn't even realize that scholarships exist for guys just like him.
Then, when he's fifteen, his father needs him to start working anyway, so who cares about school - it's not doing shit for him, anyhow. He drops out since money now is better than money later, especially when your dad and family is pressuring you to do so.
He learns a trade like carpentry or perhaps becomes a tile layer. Maybe he becomes a mechanic, but not the highly trained kind since that requires more education. Then he works a manual trade for years. Because he doesn't have any sort of degree and because he's been told his whole life that all he'll ever do is lay tile (or whatever), he accepts this to be the truth and continues to do so.
He never making more than $8 or so per hour, when he can find work - right now he can't since there's very little building or home improving going on, and he doesn't understand the way the Good Ol' Boy system works, so he's always the first guy kicked out when times get tough.
Meanwhile he uses his intelligence to start gaming the system as best he can using the resources that he does have. He keeps money under the table, he tells his wife how to arrange food stamps/WIC/free and reduced lunch for their kids. She might have also been intelligent, but family pressures or an early pregnancy encouraged her to stay home with the kids, leaving them to rely on his income since she never developed any job skills and the cost of daycare is more than she'd ever earn anyhow. Even the cost of afterschool care is huge, and she's lost any confidence in herself that she ever had.
They make it work, barely and then he gets hurt and needs his son to help out, and the cycle of poverty repeats. Poverty is truly a cycle, just like some families have cycles of entrepreneurship and the like.
Is every poor person smart? Hell no. I've worked with plenty who aren't, and a surprising number who are. But if you're using your own definition of book-educated, or "common-sense" smart, you're looking at intelligence too narrowly. What makes sense to you is only logical because you've observed it and learned about it your entire life. "Common sense" isn't actually as common as you'd think.
Poor people are fucking stupid and shouldn't be allowed to vote. If you're on any type of welfare your voting rights should be taken away from you. Only tax payers should be allowed to vote. If you're not fucking competent enough to care for yourself without government handouts then your opinion(vote) means jack shit.
So just to sum things up:
k thnx
So just to sum things up:
- OP is a fucking faggot.
- MSTeacher is also a faggot.
- Poor people are less than human.
- And OP is a faggot.
k thnx
Where will be the incentive for the Poor people to even want to become rich if they were not penalized and the rich rewarded.
29% of a Million is Huge. Why even 29%. I wish the income tax for the rich should be at 10-15% and I would still cover 60-70 % of the total tax collections ( I made it up but it should be close)
We fucking slog night and day, weekends included, to what end? Just to be in the higher end of the Tax Bracket?
Our only incentive is the incentive that we earn.
Fuck you again!
29% of a Million is Huge. Why even 29%. I wish the income tax for the rich should be at 10-15% and I would still cover 60-70 % of the total tax collections ( I made it up but it should be close)
We fucking slog night and day, weekends included, to what end? Just to be in the higher end of the Tax Bracket?
Our only incentive is the incentive that we earn.
Fuck you again!
Agreed. It's kinda funny because poor people complain about rich people taking advantage of them... but the poor people are voting for this! Let me say it again: By their voting habits poor people (read: socialists) are voting for rich people to gut them dry. As they vote in handouts and socialism they unknowningly vote in furthering their own enslavement. If they weren't allowed to vote their lives would be better. Let me say it again: Poor people would have BETTER lives if they weren't allowed to vote. What am I talking about?
True capitalism raises the standard of living. It alleviates poverty. It brings people from being poor to being middle class or rich. Capitalism gets rid of poor people. Socialism/Communism/Collectivism gets rid of rich people and leaves you with poor people. It is all very simple if you look at the facts and data AS A WHOLE and FOR ALL PEOPLE. But socialists are far too stupid to read 20 different books from all perspectives and draw a coherent conclusion. They would much rather enslave themselves through ignorance all the while thinking they are freeing themselves. People who make money know this. The socialists can never quite figure it out because they're too busy being used as cannon fodder for their masters.
It's all so basic. Is it better to give somebody a fish or to teach them to fish? Well how on earth can giving somebody a fish make them better then? How can rewarding bad behavior be better for people? It can't and it isn't. Capitalism makes societies richer. Everybody benefits with capitalism, not just rich people. Capitalism is great for poor people. Socialism is terrible for poor people and really great for the real rich. But keep believing the lie. Socialism makes it even easier for me to make money. There is no competition anymore. Everyone just complains and looks for a job. All the people are too busy fighting over the same jobs because they are too stupid to innovate. They are too stupid to practice capitalism. They are sheep, poor and stupid.
Hint to poor people/socialists: You are your own worst enemy. Your ignorance is destroying your standard of living. Capitalists have tried to allow you to free yourselves but you don't want to be free. You prefer security. And security you will get. Prisons are about as secure as it gets.
or maybe he can stop being a bitch and be the next fucking Oprah stop making excuses college is definitely not a must. Just a clean cut image so you don't look like a damn redneck or some ghetto piece of trash and learn how to speak.
Keep your sob stories to yourself my family came from real poverty (none of that government assistance bullshit with wic and food stamps) fuckwad hard work and determination that's all you need
lolol
Remembering why I avoid political threads on here.
You far right bastards are just as hilarious yet aggravating as the far left. Blind hatred and broad generalizations for everyone that is not like you.
It would be nice if the world was as black and white as you make it seem.
Remembering why I avoid political threads on here.
You far right bastards are just as hilarious yet aggravating as the far left. Blind hatred and broad generalizations for everyone that is not like you.
It would be nice if the world was as black and white as you make it seem.
people need to fucking realize that capitalism is not the same as corporatism. this thread is full of stupid.
It makes the most sense financially to tax the rich lower than the poor.
If you know if you get 10k more a year, you're gonna lose it all from going up a tax bracket, you're not gonna work any harder.
On the other hand, if you know you'll keep the 10k and pay less tax, then you'll work harder to get it.
If you know if you get 10k more a year, you're gonna lose it all from going up a tax bracket, you're not gonna work any harder.
On the other hand, if you know you'll keep the 10k and pay less tax, then you'll work harder to get it.
Just an example since you claim there aren't any intelligent poor people out there. Obviously the point was lost since you're dealing with some issues of your own.
Almost every enlisted member of the armed forces who is not in combat duty makes well less than $30k. Teachers (who have at least one degree, if not two) make less than $30k in rural areas. Private school teachers make less than $30k just about anywhere. Adjunct professors make less than $30k. New journalists make less than $30k. Freelance photographers and graphic artists often make less than $30k. Et al.
Let's suffice to say that there are many ways to define poverty and families and individuals handle it in different ways. You're drawing heavily on your personal experience. I teach in schools where 80 percent of the kids fall below the poverty line and few families will break the cycle of poverty in this generation. Being poor doesn't necessarily equate to feeling entitled. Personally, I prefer the "working poor" which we seem to have a lot of who get lumped in with the entitled poor.
P.S. How's "learning how to speak" working for you?
That simple paragraph is so delusional, it's almost frightening, let alone the rest of your post. I love it when people rush to internet forums to defend the free markets and the wealthy elite, as if they're part of the club. Guess what? You're NOT part of the wealthy elite. How do I know? You're posting on a message forum called Wicked Fire.
And guess what? You guys are your own worst enemies as well. You're so greedy, shallow, and naive, you don't even seem to understand what's happening. Keep up with the rhetoric, and within 20 years you'll be in line for food stamps too. Dumb asses.
And BTW... since when did being against large corporations fucking the middle class as hard as they can mean you're some poor commie socialist who's on welfare? Is the US media really that powerful to bend your mind in such a way? Hell, even guys like Warren Buffet and Bill Gates say the wealthy should pay more in taxes, and definitely not less when the US is in the tank financially.
And for the record, I've never taken a government handout in my life, and have no desire to. I've worked hard, and earned every penny too, same as you.