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Six EU countries join group to 'destroy' Islamic State

EUobserver / Six EU countries join group to 'destroy' Islamic State

Six EU countries have joined a US-led coalition to “degrade and destroy” the Islamic State [IS] in Iraq and Syria. The “Core Group” came together at the Nato summit in Wales on Thursday and Friday (5-6 September).

On the EU side, it includes: Denmark; France; Germany; Italy; Poland; and the UK. The other members are Australia; Canada; Turkey; and the US.

US president Barack Obama told press: “We are going to degrade and ultimately destroy ISIL [an alternative name for IS] ... the same way we’ve gone after al-Qaeda, and the same way we’ve gone after its affiliates in Somalia”.

IS is a radical Sunni Muslim group which controls territory in Iraq and Syria.
It is considered a threat to EU countries because hundreds of European Muslims have joined it and might come home to carry out terrorist attacks.

It has also beheaded Western hostages and exterminated Christian communities.
Obama noted the US has already carried out “more than 100” air strikes on IS forces.

France, Germany, Italy, the UK, and the US have also supplied small arms and heavy-calibre machine guns to Kurdish forces in northern Iraq to help them fight the jihadists.

But Core Group leaders at the Nato event ruled out: sending ground troops; negotiating with IS on hostages; or forming an alliance with IS adversary, Syrian leader Bashar Assad.

They said the campaign could take up to three years.
They also said Western diplomacy will play an important role in persuading Arab allies to deligitimise IS.

“It is critical to have Arab states, and major Sunni states, rejecting the kind of nihilism which ISIL represents and saying that this is not what Islam is about”, Obama said.

Replying to questions on co-operation with Assad, British leader David Cameron added: “We can’t act in a way that undermines our moral authority, to start acting on the principle that my enemy’s enemy is my friend”.
For his part, Nato head Anders Fogh Rasmussen said the alliance itself will not play a combat role.

But it is willing to launch a training mission for Iraqi security forces if the incoming Iraqi government asks it to.

Rasmussen also said Nato states will share more intelligence on IS financing and overseas recruitment. “The issue of returning foreign fighters is really a matter of concern from [Nato’s] security point of view”, he noted.
 


They said the campaign could take up to three years.

Those weasels.

In 3 years, after expectations have dwindled, the redundantly-named campaign "degrade and destroy" (DAD?) will be renamed "maim and mangle" (MOM?). Five years later, after it becomes clear that the Islamic state is pretty resilient, it will be renamed again to "hurt and harm" (HAH!).

In 2030, the newly-named campaign "run and retreat" (RAR!) will quietly go into effect.
 
I'm sure it's just your typical Middle East invasion not WW3. The U.S. sends around 300,000 troops while every other country in the 'alliance' sends about 5 troops.
 
So how does this kick off the beginning of WW3?
The coalition is using ISIS as an excuse to bust Syria's head. Neither Syria or Iran who are allies, and the only middle eastern countries not controlled by a puppet king are going to let their sovereignty be fucked with like that.

ISIS = the new Al Qaeda. A terrorist boogeyman that the world police have to "stop", meanwhile they pull it's strings.

Why Aren't ISIS and Al-Qaeda Attacking Israel
 
Let me know if I'm in the ballpark here:

U.S. creates Taliban / Al-queda to fight Soviets in Cold War

Taliban flies jets into towers

U.S. goes to war on half of Arabia to get Taliban

Taliban's like well yeah if you want this shit hole piece of sand go right on ahead we'll be in our caves lol

U.S. doesn't want to stop blowing shit up in Arabia and is already there so it invades Iraq, citing an extremely eminent and likely use of Iraqi WMDs on American soil

No WMDs are ever found

U.S. wants to keep blowing shit up in Arabia so it starts focusing on the other group it basically created "Al-queda"

"Al-queda" is presented in the media as a highly coordinated global terror cell with the sole mission to destroy America's freedom, but ends up being a catch all name for any pissed off Arab who has had foreign bombs falling on their homes for the past 2 decades and wants everyone to GTFO.

Obama headshots Osama (basically single handedly, I heard a seal or two helped out)

The Al-queda threat gets too hard to sell anymore, Obama "pulls out" of Iraq to throw a bone to his party liners, war in Afghanistan is losing steam in the press as they run out of "high value" caves and sand dunes to drone strike

But U.S. doesn't want to stop blowing shit up in Arabia AND now Europe is tired of Arab immigrants so... ISIS/L?
 
US funded and trained Mujahideen to fight the Soviets but to say they 'created' the Taliban is glossing over a few decades of history.

I heard Obama actually killed Osama by pile-driving him off the side of the compound wall.
 
Six EU countries join group to 'destroy' Islamic State

On the EU side, it includes: Denmark; France; Germany; Italy; Poland; and the UK. The other members are Australia; Canada; Turkey; and the US.

ISIS be like "Oh noes! Not France!"

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For as much as has been made of the supposed media savvy of these ISIS assholes, with their videos, and social media bullshit...I'm really disgusted by their shitty little logo:

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I mean, I can understand if they didn't want to go to 99Designs, and pay for really top-tier work, but goddamn it, was Fiverr just totally out of the question?

Seriously, it looks like shit.

How am I supposed to be appropriately terrified of these stone-age morons if I can't even read what's on their fucking flag?
 
WWIII started on Sept 11th, 2001. At least that's what history books in 50+ years from now will say (if they are any history books, or humans alive to read them).

The whole terrorism thing is ONE BIG FUCKEN STORY! And god damn does it piss me off in the massive way it's changed the world, especially considering the only thing it's really changed is a) given governments more control and survelliance over populations, b) lined the pockets of weapons manufacturers, among others, and c) pissed a whole lot of people around the world off, and pissed off to the point they'd prefer to see us dead than alive.

Then the thing that pisses me off the most, is it's all orchestrated, and we're just getting played for suckers.
 
Let me know if I'm in the ballpark here:

U.S. creates Taliban / Al-queda to fight Soviets in Cold War

Taliban flies jets into towers

None of the hijackers were listed as being from Afghanistan.


Al Qaeda and the Taliban: Not the Same Thing | Cato Institute

"It is uncertain if the process of conflating the Taliban and Al Qaeda—and making the former the senior partner—was a deliberate “bait and switch” tactic on the part of U.S. leaders or if it merely reflects sloppy thinking, but the result is the same in either case. Al Qaeda is a global terrorist movement with the United States (including the American homeland) as a prominent, if not the primary, target. The Taliban is a Pashtun political movement with a focus on Afghanistan and Pakistan’s largely Pashtun border-region. Its principal adversaries are rival ethnic groups.."
 
I don't see the reason why the west feels it needs to be involved in these conflicts. You don't see China feeling the need to stick their noses in. Russia actually seemed sensible in hindsight in their support for Assad because the alternative is religious nutjobs running wild. I understand there are many injustices going on all over the middle east and the rich countries in the region are doing very little to help.
 
Moxie, you insist on constantly correcting basic factual errors that other posters make. Political threads on Wickedfire have absoluely nothing to do with fact, I therefore submit that while your heart is in the right place, it may be wasted effort.

Also, OP etc are idiots.
 
I look forward to a time in the future when Jr walks downstairs and says: hey dad what was religion anyway?

Until that time; I'll just leave this here, it's a random musing that pops into my head Every time I hear about 'da terroritz': "Then he showed those men of will what will really was. He lets the last Hungarian go. He waits until his wife and kids are in the ground and then he goes after the rest of the mob. He kills their kids, he kills their wives, he kills their parents and their parents' friends. He burns down the houses they live in and the stores they work in, he kills people that owe them money. And like that he was gone. Underground. Nobody has ever seen him since. He becomes a myth, a spook story that criminals tell their kids at night. "Rat on your pop, and Keyser Soze will get you."

"Keaton always said: I don't believe in God, but I'm afraid of him. Well I believe in God, and the only thing that scares me is Keyser Soze... A peerless psycho fucked up butcher"