PPC Arbitrage with the Big Boys
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Don't you people get it? Rich a-holes like engaged come on here and argue with you to create smoke and mirrors to slow you down!
Break through the bullshit and do your own stuff. Better to discuss what you have experienced rather than just theories.
engaged, If you live around austin then I will be glad to personally slap you nice. I am not a nice person, never claimed to be one. I work on my computer bucause I don't have to deal with all the idiots. Did I not say I was not thinking last night and was not on the whole ROI kick. I was talking margin. why continue the debate?
I completely understand what you're saying, but just because you have your own way of calculating the things that you do, and call them what you want, doesn't mean that it's the correct terminology.
Gross Margin = Gross Profit Margin = Profit Margin
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While Jon is right, that most of these terms don't really matter for arbitrage as long is it all makes sense in your head, the knowledge is useful for anybody running an e-commerce store, or working in retail. If you go rattling off the wrong terms to a business partner, wholesaler, tax agent, whoever... you're either going to confuse them, or look like an idiot to somebody that knows what they're talking about.
I asked this earlier but I don't think anyone addressed it yet. When you're bidding on keywords at 7search, do you bid for the "top 5" positions? A lot of the keywords I've been bidding on have been fairly expensive to get in the top 5.
I may not be targeting good enough niches, but some of these keywords have top bids of $0.30 per click, while the 7search number one spot is at $0.06 per click.
Edit: In case anyone is unclear what I mean, 7search has two prices. One price, which is more expensive, is for the top 5 spots in its affiliate network. The other price is for the top 5 spots in its own search.
So if I have a bid that costs me $0.06/click for 7search's site and $0.20/click on its affiliate network, which should I generally bid on? I've been going after the top 5 spots in the affiliate network, but that means I'm spending more per click.
For all of you who bid less than $0.10 per click, are you in the top 5 results of 7search's affiliate network or the top 5 results of its search?
I may not be targeting good enough niches, but some of these keywords have top bids of $0.30 per click, while the 7search number one spot is at $0.06 per click.
Edit: In case anyone is unclear what I mean, 7search has two prices. One price, which is more expensive, is for the top 5 spots in its affiliate network. The other price is for the top 5 spots in its own search.
So if I have a bid that costs me $0.06/click for 7search's site and $0.20/click on its affiliate network, which should I generally bid on? I've been going after the top 5 spots in the affiliate network, but that means I'm spending more per click.
For all of you who bid less than $0.10 per click, are you in the top 5 results of 7search's affiliate network or the top 5 results of its search?
I'm curious about this too. My first site is 100% CTR and the ads are paying good so I'm really happy about that. But I'm not getting enough traffic to it. I'm trying to keep the bids under .06 on 7 search.
I live in Austin, the arboretum area. But I'm selling my place and moving to Nor Cal or Boston. Texas ain't my thing. People don't know how to drive, uneducated, hmm what else. That's it for now, don't know what I thought moving here. Lasted all of 7 months, nothing special about Texas. If I was president I'd sell it to Iran.
lol. I thought you were from Canada.
It's funny you say that about Austin, because Austin is, by far, the best area of the state. NC is just as bad outside the cities, but inside the cities, most everyone is from the North East. I'm from West Michigan.
It's funny you say that about Austin, because Austin is, by far, the best area of the state. NC is just as bad outside the cities, but inside the cities, most everyone is from the North East. I'm from West Michigan.
Who cares, make every site profitable in your first shot, best keywords, then move on, check back in a week, make some adjustments if needed. Then check back in a month... then leave it alone for 4 months...
If you define succes as $10 a day you aren't setting the bar very high.
Just keep trying new things.
engaged you have said a mouthfull, $10 for 1 site is not success. however $10 from 100 sites is success so build to that. you do not suck if what you have now is only making you $1 to $5 a day. keep building it does not take me more than 30 minutes to build a arbi page from research to launch. I make 5 to 10 a day. However if you really want to be successful for every arbi site, make a content site that you want to get natural traffic too. Have your adsense and aff stuff on there. Don't forget to do your seo on those sites, I have some worksheets that might help if you want them send me a pm with your email. you are building a busienss and you do not want to leave anything on the table. so build build build but also build with a plan! there are no wrong answers on the plan!
engaged, I often work at 360 primo or the barns and nobel at the arboritum. It does not surprise me that you do not like Austin. I would be surprised if you will like NC even worse than texas. You think people here are uneducated? You live by they arboritum? hmmm, you must live in section 8 housing!
Well I dont see where joe says people outside of the metro areas in NC like charlotte, that people are uneducated. The smart people move out of the city to get away from all of the bullshit that comes with living in the city.
NC is a great place to live. Outside of the massive influx of Yankees flooding the state it's great.lol. But honestly why would someone rather live in Charlotte and pay twice as much as they would if they lived outside the city limits ( mooresville etc ).. sounds like the uneducated people live inside the city.
What outside of Durham , Charlotte has the highest crime rate in the state and the Highest foreclosure rate in the state. Sounds like a swell place to live. Maybe they should move back north,,, lmao
Outside my yankee jokes,,,, The issue with cities is that the poor live in the cities due to use of public transportation, therefore crime in any metro area will be higher. Most people move out of the cities to provide a better living and learning enviroment for their children, lower crime rates and better cost of living. This is not just in NC or TX ( I have lived in both) but any major city. The poor need the city to get closer to jobs, the influx of the lower class bring the problems with them when they move into the cities, causing crime to increase and property values to decrease. While forcing the middle class and up out of the city and into suburbs or surrounding towns.
Real educated people get the hell out of the city, not stay there and put up with the bullshit. Not stay there and rsik being a victim of crime or investing in a property that may not be worth the appreciation they could get outside the city limits. Especially in charlotte, which outside of Durham and High Point has to be one of the largest ghettos in the state,.
NC is a great place to live. Outside of the massive influx of Yankees flooding the state it's great.lol. But honestly why would someone rather live in Charlotte and pay twice as much as they would if they lived outside the city limits ( mooresville etc ).. sounds like the uneducated people live inside the city.
What outside of Durham , Charlotte has the highest crime rate in the state and the Highest foreclosure rate in the state. Sounds like a swell place to live. Maybe they should move back north,,, lmao
Outside my yankee jokes,,,, The issue with cities is that the poor live in the cities due to use of public transportation, therefore crime in any metro area will be higher. Most people move out of the cities to provide a better living and learning enviroment for their children, lower crime rates and better cost of living. This is not just in NC or TX ( I have lived in both) but any major city. The poor need the city to get closer to jobs, the influx of the lower class bring the problems with them when they move into the cities, causing crime to increase and property values to decrease. While forcing the middle class and up out of the city and into suburbs or surrounding towns.
Real educated people get the hell out of the city, not stay there and put up with the bullshit. Not stay there and rsik being a victim of crime or investing in a property that may not be worth the appreciation they could get outside the city limits. Especially in charlotte, which outside of Durham and High Point has to be one of the largest ghettos in the state,.
He meant NC = Nor Cal, but didn't remember that it is a state abbreviation.
I lived in Ca before college, I love it there.
Also, don't live in section 8 housing.
I own my place in a gated area, at age 22. Let me know where you live so I can criticize you.
And, got an offer on my place today that should go through. Getting out of here fast.
I lived in Ca before college, I love it there.
Also, don't live in section 8 housing.
I own my place in a gated area, at age 22. Let me know where you live so I can criticize you.
And, got an offer on my place today that should go through. Getting out of here fast.
No I meant North Carolina.. haha
Mill, the majority of the foreclosures and crime are on the poor sides of town. The South and North sides the wealthy sides, and are where all of the Northerners live. Crime is low there, public transportation is limited to express buses. I live in South Park (if you're curious Mill). I can go whole days without meeting a single Southerner (nothing wrong with them ).
It's like Atlanta lite. On business front that is. It's less diverse and more focused on the financial industry.
edit: oh I see engaged was talking about Chris, it's gets pretty fucking confusing.
Mill, the majority of the foreclosures and crime are on the poor sides of town. The South and North sides the wealthy sides, and are where all of the Northerners live. Crime is low there, public transportation is limited to express buses
. I live in South Park (if you're curious Mill). I can go whole days without meeting a single Southerner (nothing wrong with them ). It's like Atlanta lite. On business front that is. It's less diverse and more focused on the financial industry.
edit: oh I see engaged was talking about Chris, it's gets pretty fucking confusing.
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