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Y'day I started a US targeted email submit campaign. The offer is from Hydra & changes to Perfspot for visitors outside US. Now out of around 100 clicks I sent to the offer, 40% of them redirected to perfspot.

Any thoughts?
 


If we add logic to this problem we will come up three possible scenarios:

1) Google has a problem on their side and is showing your ad to non-US searchers.
2) You did not set the geotargeting right (re-check).
3) Their is a problem on Hydra's side.

After we take a look at these logical constraints we ask ourselves, how can we fix this situation per the variables listed?

We shall take it step by step.

1) and 2) can be tackled easily. Check out the referring logs and see if it came through country specific Google domains (google.co.uk google.cn etc). If it did then either 1) or 2) or both are true. You can fix this by e-mailing Google your logs and update them on the situation (but be forewarned you're account is probably going to get banned.) To further your case, take the list of 100 clicks and extrapolate time and IP to each case. By doing that you can show that the last 100 clicks to your site were from X ip in X country (not the US) during the times your campaign was active, and so you were being charged for non-US clicks, when you specifically stated you only wanted US clicks. Now, if you fucked up on your side and left the geotargeting on then Google will not help you, just cut your loss and redo it right. What was I going to say. Oh yeah, 1) and 2) are tackled.

3) Talk to your network and tell them if they are geotargeting right.

All in all I've never had this problem either. Most likely you fucked the tracking (for example, Afghanistan is NOT apart of the US).

/sohigh/:rasta::rasta::rasta:
 
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I checked, & rechecked! No. 2 is not the problem. The campaign is US targeted only. I'm gonna check my logs for foreign IPs & contact my AM.

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If we add logic to this problem we will come up three possible scenarios:

1) Google has a problem on their side and is showing your ad to non-US searchers.
2) You did not set the geotargeting right (re-check).
3) Their is a problem on Hydra's side.

After we take a look at these logical constraints we ask ourselves, how can we fix this situation per the variables listed?

We shall take it step by step.

1) and 2) can be tackled easily. Check out the referring logs and see if it came through country specific Google domains (google.co.uk google.cn etc). If it did then either 1) or 2) or both are true. You can fix this by e-mailing Google your logs and update them on the situation (but be forewarned you're account is probably going to get banned.) To further your case, take the list of 100 clicks and extrapolate time and IP to each case. By doing that you can show that the last 100 clicks to your site were from X ip in X country (not the US) during the times your campaign was active, and so you were being charged for non-US clicks, when you specifically stated you only wanted US clicks. Now, if you fucked up on your side and left the geotargeting on then Google will not help you, just cut your loss and redo it right. What was I going to say. Oh yeah, 1) and 2) are tackled.

3) Talk to your network and tell them if they are geotargeting right.

All in all I've never had this problem either. Most likely you fucked the tracking (for example, Afghanistan is NOT apart of the US).

/sohigh/:rasta::rasta::rasta:
 
So I'm guessing 40% of your visitors were outside of the US.

Damn. Why the fuck didn't I think of it ? Idiot!

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@Fatal, as I said in PM - Hydra may have detection problems. Now since you can't access your logs - we can't have a definite detection of your problem, but as the earlier folks have done, we can guess it!

For one, email Hydra and let them know that 1) You're having GT problems and you think it's on their side. 2) Your AM sucks and never comes online and you would like to get him changed.

Wait for their reply and post us an update.
 
I've had this "problem". Turned out I received a lot of traffic from Google Images search from outside the US. For some reason the LP ranked high in Google Images search for a couple of days.
 
Don't be stupid. I'm talking about adwords traffic & not Google Image results which are organic.
I've had this "problem". Turned out I received a lot of traffic from Google Images search from outside the US. For some reason the LP ranked high in Google Images search for a couple of days.
 
^^ And I'm talking about organic traffic possibly messing up with your PPC/network stats, dbag.

You didn't say which stats you are looking at, network or adwords. And since I don't know you I have no way to figure out if you are completely stupid or you just didn't pay attention to the stats.
 
i also run some submits with Hydra and see the non US directed to perfspot

I am also targeting US only on Google Content.

Im sure their targeting is messed up to some degree
 
^^ And I'm talking about organic traffic possibly messing up with your PPC/network stats, dbag.

You didn't say which stats you are looking at, network or adwords. And since I don't know you I have no way to figure out if you are completely stupid or you just didn't pay attention to the stats.
What an "outside the box thinking", fucktard.
I clearly mentioned using adwords traffic to get 100 clicks to the offer.

i also run some submits with Hydra and see the non US directed to perfspot

I am also targeting US only on Google Content.

Im sure their targeting is messed up to some degree
Yeah I checked my LP stats... I'm getting 100% US visitors. Hydra's geotargeting is fucked up it seems.
 
Hey Fatal, Who is your AM here? I'll make sure we dig into this issue on our end.

Hello Jason,
My AM is Charles Roth. Its been three months now since I joined hydra & the only thing keeping me away from promoting Hydra is my AM. I am newbie & I don't make thousands of dollars a day but it really sucks when your AM takes no interest in what you are doing or what you want to know.

I did try to keep in touch with him when I started promoting hydra. Most of the time I didn't find him online & even if I did I hardly used to get any replies from him. I stopped contacting him. It sucks when you find no one to answer your basic question like average epc & top converting offers, etc.

Just 2 days back I joined COPEAC & I'm very much happy with my AM over there. I have not even started promoting them but my AM has already spent a few hours with me telling what stuff works & how to go for it!
 
Hello Jason,
My AM is Charles Roth. Its been three months now since I joined hydra & the only thing keeping me away from promoting Hydra is my AM. I am newbie & I don't make thousands of dollars a day but it really sucks when your AM takes no interest in what you are doing or what you want to know.

I did try to keep in touch with him when I started promoting hydra. Most of the time I didn't find him online & even if I did I hardly used to get any replies from him. I stopped contacting him. It sucks when you find no one to answer your basic question like average epc & top converting offers, etc.

Just 2 days back I joined COPEAC & I'm very much happy with my AM over there. I have not even started promoting them but my AM has already spent a few hours with me telling what stuff works & how to go for it!

Thanks, appreciate you explaining. Please email me your Hydra PID/Company name/or your account email addy - jason(at)hydranetwork.com.
 
Hi Jason,

Just for the record, I also have Charlie as my AM and he's been extremely helpful to me. I'm sorry that Fatal isn't getting the same service I am. Must be a mix up somewhere.

Nice to see a Hydra exec on the WF boards. Welcome.
 
Hi Jason,

Just for the record, I also have Charlie as my AM and he's been extremely helpful to me. I'm sorry that Fatal isn't getting the same service I am. Must be a mix up somewhere.

Nice to see a Hydra exec on the WF boards. Welcome.

Thanks for the welcome =] Always been a fan of this board, about time I posted. If you guys ever see anyone needing help with Hydra, please send them my way.
 
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