Antifraud Tactic 2012: Paul's NOT going to be covered up this Saturday!

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Great news, Paulfans,

Saturday's caucus, Washington State, is one that Paul's campaign is sure they can win but are still afraid of voter fraud happening. (In fact it already has! -But we caught that one.)

I shouldn't have to tell anyone that winning a state should open up lots of new voters for Paul that truly believe that he can't win one. -I also shouldn't mention that if there is a time to win a first state, then a couple of days before Super Tuesday would be pretty swell indeed.

So here's the deal. An Anonymous Paul fan has put up $5k as payments to people in all of the most important preceints in Washington State, Georgia, Tennessee, Ohio, and Idaho too. States we could actually win.

What these payees will be doing is videographing the entire poll-day & conducting their own exit polls. They'll be getting pics of the official tape at the end of the day, counting banners and buttons, taking pics of anything suspicious, etc... Hired fairness-keepers to watch Paul's back all day long.

Looking forward to a victorious Saturday night!


BTW: Check out this vid about the fixed polls if you have any questions about how bad it is getting:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Takt6F3Qlo]RON PAUL'S GOT THE BALLS - YouTube[/ame]

& have a good laugh on this one:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvrtD8kdewg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvrtD8kdewg[/ame]
 


Inb4 story about RP's campaign workers arrested 4 illegal video recording at voteing centers
 
dmnEPC said:
Inb4 story about RP's campaign workers arrested 4 illegal video recording at voteing centers
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Honestly, I'm scared shitless that that's going to happen... Even though they're giving lots of instruction on the site about what is and isn't allowed.
 
lukep said:
Honestly, I'm scared shitless that that's going to happen... Even though they're giving lots of instruction on the site about what is and isn't allowed.
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The trouble is people are dumb and to lazy to read the instructions. I'm pretty sure it's illegal to video anything on the grounds at all or give exit polls. If there doing it off premise it should be ok ( I think). I live in a state where democrat voter fraud runs rampant (cigarettes for votes,bussing the homeless) but as soon as a conservative does anything to stop it people get arrested
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
Yes because everything in the world should be able to be explained in a 15 second soundbite.
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Who said anything about 15 seconds? That video goes for over 12 minutes, if it's designed for the ron paul faithful then great - if it's designed for those undecided then it sucks.

This is the biggest problem with the Ron Paul movement, whenever somebody says anything critical (whether it be constructive criticism or unconstructive) everybody in their movement just shrugs their shoulders and says "man, you just don't get it. You've been programmed for so long the wrong way you need to unlearn everything you've learnt and then watch about 5,000 hrs of poorly made youtube videos explaining the movement".

Your marketers, you should be doing this better.
 
tencentpiece said:
Who said anything about 15 seconds? That video goes for over 12 minutes, if it's designed for the ron paul faithful then great - if it's designed for those undecided then it sucks.
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If someone is not comfortable investing 12 minutes of their time to decide who is going to lead this country for the next 4-8 years, then they're probably not in the demographic he's targeting. There are some very complicated issues facing the world and none of them can be explained in a soundbite.

A lot of people get frustrated with Ron Paul because they want him to dress nicer, or speak in soundbites, or be taller and better looking with nicer hair, but they're missing the entire point of this campaign. He knows he will never be elected, that's not why he's running.

He's running to change the political discussion in this country and to change the direction that we're headed in with these prepackaged candidates we've been electing for so long. He's running to bring awareness to the serious issues we're facing so that other candidates can adopt these sound principals in the future and try to change the system over time.

The Ron Paul campaign is an ideas platform, not an attempt to get the mindless masses on board with political faggotry.
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
If someone is not comfortable investing 12 minutes of their time to decide who is going to lead this country for the next 4-8 years, then they're probably not in the demographic he's targeting. There are some very complicated issues facing the world and none of them can be explained in a soundbite.

A lot of people get frustrated with Ron Paul because they want him to dress nicer, or speak in soundbites, or be taller and better looking with nicer hair, but they're missing the entire point of this campaign. He knows he will never be elected, that's not why he's running.

He's running to change the political discussion in this country and to change the direction that we're headed in with these prepackaged candidates we've been electing for so long. He's running to bring awareness to the serious issues we're facing so that other candidates can adopt these sound principals in the future and try to change the system over time.

The Ron Paul campaign is an ideas platform, not an attempt to get the mindless masses on board with political faggotry.
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That's exactly the issue with his campaign. Its not about 5% intellect understanding his ideas on gold standard. Everyone votes for a president so your campaign needs to address everyone not just the 5%.

With average american IQ below 10, do you expect them to understand gold standard and federal reserve?

It amazes every time media says, romney won because of huge mormon population. I mean cmon, just because he is a mormon, every mormon votes for him. They dont understand anything besides his religion.

You guys just pack your bags and move to asia. American dream is over. Its now a LACK of opportunity
 
For the record I'm not the one one starring these threads. lol

I guess other people are tired of Ron Paul evangelists...
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
If someone is not comfortable investing 12 minutes of their time to decide who is going to lead this country for the next 4-8 years, then they're probably not in the demographic he's targeting. There are some very complicated issues facing the world and none of them can be explained in a soundbite.

A lot of people get frustrated with Ron Paul because they want him to dress nicer, or speak in soundbites, or be taller and better looking with nicer hair, but they're missing the entire point of this campaign. He knows he will never be elected, that's not why he's running.

He's running to change the political discussion in this country and to change the direction that we're headed in with these prepackaged candidates we've been electing for so long. He's running to bring awareness to the serious issues we're facing so that other candidates can adopt these sound principals in the future and try to change the system over time.

The Ron Paul campaign is an ideas platform, not an attempt to get the mindless masses on board with political faggotry.
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Correct.

It is surreal to hear folks rail about Paul's suits, voice, and unwillingness to oversimplify his points for the economically illiterate, just to get elected. It's as if these people think Paul is a common political whore despite decades of him proving otherwise. They seem to think Paul cares more about getting elected than he cares about spurring folks to consider his ideas.

If he were a new congressman, without a track record, I could (almost) understand that ignorance. But the guy has been around for decades. At some point, ignorance becomes delusion.

If getting elected was Paul's top priority, would he really choose the steepest road with the most formidable obstacles (Fed, currency, economics, etc.), and then make a point of being truthful and consistent?


[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYcubwFw0b8"]My reaction of catching the Brony - YouTube[/ame]
 
UPDATES: (Good stuff!)

1. The amount has been upped to $7050 now by more contributors so that more polls can be watched. Their goal is to canvas every polling place in those states mentioned which have at least 500 voters.

2. There is talk about running an additional Moneybomb JUST to raise money for a form of bounty to be paid to anyone who comes forward with proof of fraud!

(That's really freaking cool to think about... If you were close to the GOP in a campaign and you saw something would you come forward for a half million dollars?)

3. Last but not least, there is now an App for this.

PollWatcher Android App Successfully Projects Winners in AZ and MI ahead of Mainstream Media » Revolution PAC

They're arming all of the pollworkers with this app, which is credited with successfully picking Romney as the winner Tuesday BEFORE the media did.
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
If someone is not comfortable investing 12 minutes of their time to decide who is going to lead this country for the next 4-8 years, then they're probably not in the demographic he's targeting. There are some very complicated issues facing the world and none of them can be explained in a soundbite.

A lot of people get frustrated with Ron Paul because they want him to dress nicer, or speak in soundbites, or be taller and better looking with nicer hair, but they're missing the entire point of this campaign. He knows he will never be elected, that's not why he's running.

He's running to change the political discussion in this country and to change the direction that we're headed in with these prepackaged candidates we've been electing for so long. He's running to bring awareness to the serious issues we're facing so that other candidates can adopt these sound principals in the future and try to change the system over time.

The Ron Paul campaign is an ideas platform, not an attempt to get the mindless masses on board with political faggotry.
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Sorry, but this video has little to do with who will lead the (American) country in the next four years. If you had 12 minutes to convince somebody to vote for RP, would you use this video? No, you wouldn't. So please don't act like a commitment of 12 minutes is too much because it's deciding the presidency.

The problem with RP is that ALL of his pro-videos go for way-too-fucking-long. If the RP supporters don't want to admit it, that's fine - when you lose the election you can blame yourselves because of your own close mindedness.

I personally couldn't give a shit who wins the election race, but if the r3volution (P.S using an 3 instead of an E makes your message loose a bunch of important age ranges) is going to succeed then you need to focus on removing the bullshit and pushing the message.

That's marketing 101 and I'm surprised RP and all of his supporters don't understand it.

P.S if you think RP is running to send a message and not because he thinks he can legitimately win, then I'm sure lukep has about 4000 hours of youtube videos of you to watch.
 
tencentpiece said:
Sorry, but this video has little to do with who will lead the (American) country in the next four years. If you had 12 minutes to convince somebody to vote for RP, would you use this video? No, you wouldn't. So please don't act like a commitment of 12 minutes is too much because it's deciding the presidency.

The problem with RP is that ALL of his pro-videos go for way-too-fucking-long. If the RP supporters don't want to admit it, that's fine - when you lose the election you can blame yourselves because of your own close mindedness.

I personally couldn't give a shit who wins the election race, but if the r3volution (P.S using an 3 instead of an E makes your message loose a bunch of important age ranges) is going to succeed then you need to focus on removing the bullshit and pushing the message.

That's marketing 101 and I'm surprised RP and all of his supporters don't understand it.

P.S if you think RP is running to send a message and not because he thinks he can legitimately win, then I'm sure lukep has about 4000 hours of youtube videos of you to watch.
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Dude, you missed the entire point of what UnarmedGunman and JakeStrathem just wrote.
 
music4mic said:
Dude, you missed the entire point of what UnarmedGunman and JakeStrathem just wrote.
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I think you might have missed my point. Ron Paul is a strong candidate, his message is sound and I agree with a lot of what he says.

The problem is with his supporters, for example the original video posted about RP voter fraud is so dull and uninteresting that most people will stop watching within the first three minutes.

Voter fraud should be interesting to every US citizen and even those like myself who aren't US citizens.

TL:DR RP is strong, but the support team and material sucks balls.

I'm out of this discussion, because you've only proved me right. 'You missed the point of what blah and blah just said', yet you provided no explaination of WHAT point I missed. THAT'S MY WHOLE FUCKING POINT. RON PAUL SUPPORTERS NEVER EXPLAIN THEMSELVES WHEN THEY RETORT.

I'm sure you will ignore this message and go on your r33333333333333333333333volution campaign without listening to anybody else either.
 
tencentpiece said:
I think you might have missed my point. Ron Paul is a strong candidate, his message is sound and I agree with a lot of what he says.

The problem is with his supporters, for example the original video posted about RP voter fraud is so dull and uninteresting that most people will stop watching within the first three minutes.

Voter fraud should be interesting to every US citizen and even those like myself who aren't US citizens.

TL:DR RP is strong, but the support team and material sucks balls.

I'm out of this discussion, because you've only proved me right. 'You missed the point of what blah and blah just said', yet you provided no explaination of WHAT point I missed. THAT'S MY WHOLE FUCKING POINT. RON PAUL SUPPORTERS NEVER EXPLAIN THEMSELVES WHEN THEY RETORT.

I'm sure you will ignore this message and go on your r33333333333333333333333volution campaign without listening to anybody else either.
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He's not running to actually become President - I think that's the point you're missing in all of this. If he were trying to get elected then your points would carry more weight.
 
THAT'S MY WHOLE FUCKING POINT. RON PAUL SUPPORTERS NEVER EXPLAIN THEMSELVES WHEN THEY RETORT.
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I thought maybe you'd go back and reread what they wrote and catch on, but i agree with this:

Unarmed Gunman said:
He's not running to actually become President - I think that's the point you're missing in all of this. If he were trying to get elected then your points would carry more weight.
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and will add:

He doesn't water down his message and repeat one-liner-talking-points to try and get votes. You're right, a lot of what he says is too complex or counter intuitive, so his likelihood of getting elected isn't that great. However, he's awoken a lot of people in this country with a message of liberty. He may not get elected, but he's made the job of those that are attacking this country from within much more difficult. Wars aren't won overnight.

On a side note though, he does have dumbed down campaign videos that he runs on TV. Most of the videos you're talking about are user generated content and are probably targeting people that already have an interest.

And really, all of this shit about the complexity of his message is bullshit, his message is pretty simple: People should be free and government is trying to reduce that freedom through these means... I think it's the simplicity of his message that has actually caught on so quickly.

tl;dr he's not really trying to win the election (although it would be icing on the cake) and he didn't make most of the long boring videos, he's supporters did.
 
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