Article on natural treatment for ADHD



ADD is a result of the 4028498 distractions there are in the world today, I dont buy it as a real disease
 
You know - it's been about 20 years since I was diagnosed with ADD as a senior in H.S. Ritalin helped me go from failing to a college degree in 3 years (not 4). Learning disabilities like ADD are right in line with others. My father is dyslexic, I've got a brother with asbergers, etc..

I've worked with my own kids for years trying to avoid the drugs, but there is something to ADD. I've got GOOD kids - but their education, their friendships, and their experiences suffered until I did something.

I tried the natural route.... you try and get a 7 year old to eat some of the stuff :) Besides it really doesn't work.

I tried the we'd work with him route - and it was great except everyone in his class hates him because he can't stop moving, interrupts, and misses the social clues others take for granted. He's smart as a whip - and can read the same books you do, but he's in the second grade. It's a barrier to concentration. In fact ADD kids can superfocus on some things. For example sitting in front of this damn computer all day and doing 50 things to get a website up.

Plenty of kids with bad parents end up just saying "give him drugs - he's add". But there are also plenty of us who go through a real evaluation process and try everything we can.

BTW - He's still a great kid. Except now he's got friends, can sleep at night, etc.. He's finally able to be a boyscout and play t-ball. Things he WAS NOT capable of just a few months ago. He couldn't sit still long enough and he couldn't play ball with out hurting himself and others because he COULD NOT pay attention long enough. He'd try and try - and nothing we as parents could do could help him.

When you've got your 4 old crying in the middle of the night because she's super tired and she can't "shut" her brain off and it's the third night in a row.... well it will be second out of 4 kids on the drugs I'd say.

I'm more concerned with the levels of disabilities that seem to be rising drastically like autism. Something in our environment is fucking kids up - can't wait for us to find it.
 
BluuueJammm said:
Yeah, like it was a hundred years ago. And life expectancy was 35.
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Yeah, cause like, poor hyginene and sanitation weren't to blame for that at all.. LOL!
WHO | Facts and figures: Water, sanitation and hygiene links to health

Between 1971 and 2000 cancer increased in men by 21% and in women by 39%.

Source National Audit Office.

During the same period, life expectancy at birth rose from 69 to 75 for men and 75 to 80 for women. Source ONS.

In ten years, 1982 to 1992, cancer increased by 77%.

This included a rise of 197% in 5 to 14 year-olds and 152% in 15 to 24 year-olds.

Source Morbidity Stats. from General Practice. 1995.

Not surprisingly, they have stopped producing MSGP documents.
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Don't bullshit yourself into believing that modern medicine's "here take this pill/injection" mentality for nearly every conceivable illness is healthy.
 
ADHD is a real disorder. People don't want to believe it is, just like for years they thought that depressed people just needed to learn to be happy.
 
conv3rsion said:
ADHD is a real disorder. People don't want to believe it is, just like for years they thought that depressed people just needed to learn to be happy.
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I've had depression for 20 years. You know how I cured it? Stopped caring about the outcome of society. I became a spectator of people and society. Cured it in a few days, instantly.

Depression is a feeling of dread that you cannot control what you cannot control :)
 
For a while now I've been considering a combination of a few of the things listed in the first link in the OP to help with anxiety. More specifically, GABA + glutamine + vitamin B6. This thread has gotten me off of the fence, so to speak, so gl me.
 
sup bros,

i've never been diagnosed with ADHD or ADD though I have had "ADD symptoms" my whole life. I think there are a ton of different causes for ADD and ultimately (as usual) it depends on the person. I will share what I have learned about it though, and I am by no means an expert:

1. You guys should know this, but it needs to be said here: Adderall and Ritalin, along with similar drugs are NOT a cure. They only mask the symptoms of a greater problem. And when you come off these drugs, you just feel worse than when you started, along with the fact that your brain function is straight up compromised. And, if you're eating shit (which most of you probably are) and have poor sleeping habits, you're double fucked. I think that Adderall obviously has it's uses (I have used it before, no longer), but it's toxic effects on the body FAR outweigh any short term (literally, 8 hours of benefit for a ton of liver stress, brain stress, etc.) benefits that it provides. Ultimately, it's speed. If you think speed is going to cure your ADD, then I don't know what to tell you.

2. I think that most (if not all) ADD problems stem from neurotransmitter deficiencies, specifically lack of dopamine/dopamine production. I can tell you (as I am currently going through these tests), I was and, to a lesser extent, still am deficient in dopamine. Dopamine is the neurotransmitter that helps with focus. There's a ton of factors that can affect your dopamine production, from stress, to poor eating habits, to poor sleep habits.

I honestly don't really know for sure specifically why my dopamine levels were so messed up (I'll have to ask Dr. Kalish again when I retest this week), though I know it ties into stress, bad sleeping habits, diet, etc. I can tell you that my serotonin levels, which are very much connected to dopamine, were low because my body was unable to process tryptophan/protein. Basically, the standard american diet can severely dilute the HCL/digestive enzymes in your stomach, along with your ability to digest food and absorb nutrients, period. When your stomach has no stomach acid, or compromised stomach acid function or whatever you want to call it, your body has trouble breaking down protein, and from that protein, getting the essential amino acids your brain needs to function. So basically I wasn't getting enough tryptophan --> tryptophan is a precursor to serotonin --> not enough serotonin.

I am assuming that something similar was going on with dopamine - though tyrosine is not an essential amino acid, it is found in food and I can only guess that the same thing that was happening with tryptophan was happening with tyrosine, as they are both amino acids that come from protein.

3. Gluten, motherfuckers. I know there is still a ton of skepticism about grains and whether they are healthy or not, and that's cool, skepticism is good. But try cutting them out of your diet for 30 days and see how you feel. I know that we had the whole self experimentation argument in the other thread - but I'm pretty satisfied with my results (though I definitely had expert help and advice from Dr. Kalish and Sean Croxton (undergroundwellness), among others.


SO, if you're still following me here, I think the reason why glutamine is being recommended is because (I believe) it can help regrow the villi/microvilli in your gut, which help with digestion and protein absorption (and in turn, ideally amino acid absorption as well). Frankly I think that it's always good to take glutamine as it's super good for you, but I have my doubts about it being the be all and end all for ADD treatment.

So here are some suggestions for you fools:

1. I would most definitely incorporate an HCL/digestive enzyme/probiotic into your supplement routine (assuming you have one. I hope you do.). All of these are good for your digestion, and the probiotic helps promote "good" flora growth in your gut, which you want. Most of the foods you guys eat probably are wrecking your shit, so having HCL/digestive enzymes can help at least slow down some of the damage that you're doing.

2. I would recommend trying out tryptophan/tyrosine. Tryptophan is a precursor to serotonin, which, when you have high levels of, you feel like it's the best goddamn day you've ever had in your entire fucking life, and dopamine, which when you have high levels of (or what I really mean to say, is balanced), you are focused and calm as shit. If your body is having trouble digesting tryptophan and tyrosine (which is likely), it can't hurt to have these in your supplement routine. You'll have to experiment with the dosages to see what works for you. I basically was taking a low dose of tryptophan during the day (made me feel good) and a high dose at night before I went to bed (as in high doses that shit will knock you out). Tyrosine I never had a set dosage, most people can probably do ok at 2g a day (and that might even be a lot).

I will say that for most of you, tyrosine will be the best thing you've ever tried. It's fucking legit. Tryptophan is not bad either. If you feel depressed at all on a regular basis, wait until you take this shit.

If you really want to go in depth, I would suggest taking a neurotransmitter test. However, make sure that it is NOT the neurotransmitter test from the company "Neuroscience" - Kalish (and other Dr's) have informed me that this test and company is basically a scam/fraud and should be avoided at all costs as the results are completely inaccurate and bogus. If you do decide to go through with the test, the one you would want to take is the "Organic Cation Transporter Functional Status" test. The company is neuroresearch and their site is neuroassist.com.

And again, gluten fucking sucks and basically wrecks your ability to properly digest food and absorb nutrients. Cutting that out alone can make a world of difference for some people.

The real truth is that ADD is mostly a symptom of a greater problem - being a poorly functioning digestive system, along with stress, bad sleep habits, etc. I think that it's something that should be treated holistically and if you do decide to fix your shit up - make sure you take care of your whole body while you're at it. No sense in fixing one thing and ignoring the rest - it's all connected.

While I'm here - fuck big pharma, and fuck the food industry for poisoning our food with bullshit pesticides, hormones, antibiotics, GMO bullshit, etc. It's fucking ridiculous that this shit goes on. All these dudes are protesting on wall street i'm ready to start a goddamn food revolution over here.
 
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