I'd better start this one by saying that I'm totally UNDECIDED... But:
There has been a huge revival of the Obama birther conspiracy lately, especially after the Sherriff of Maricopa county AZ (Yes, the same Sherriff Joe that the DOJ is trying to take to court for racial discrimination) came forward with evidence that points to the Long-form document being Created, without a doubt.
Check out this very balanced MSM piece on that:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikaajbOEWpk]Confirmed: Obamas Birth Certificate Not Authentic 2012 - YouTube[/ame]
I goes into detail on how they spent tens of thousands of dollars analyizing the PDF the whitehouse released and have "Proven" that it was created, not scanned in. There are also other issues in it like the wrong Stamp being used for the date.
For the really convincing evidence about the Date Stamp forgery, I refer you to this article:
Sheriff Joe wants Obama’s original draft card
Pretty convincing, but I'll concede that no one has proven here that date stamps from hawaii birth certificates are supposed to always be 4 digits in the first place.
Now, if that weren't enough, there's more... Much more.
The government-used E-verify system for SS numbers, at least at the time of the reporting, showed Obamas SSN as Fraudulent. There is sworn testimony of it and screenshots too.
-Not only did E-Verify flag it as fraudulent, but that author would have us believe that the range of SS numbers that it came from was given out at a later time than the president's birth.
Also just as bad, a Hawaiian election official has gone on record stating that his supervisor at the hospital Obama was supposedly born at told him that there was never a long-form birth certificate. They simply didn't issue them at the time so no one could possibly have one. He confirmed that with the HI Dept of Health, too.
So, the plot is getting thick again.
I have had serious doubts about birthers from the very beginning, but honestly, too damn many people are coming forward with too damn much evidence now... And it all fits together to form the same picture of Obama NOT being born when and where he says he was.
Could ALL of these people be simply making this shit up? The count seems too high for that now. Keep in mind that these people are coming out publically, which could hurt their careers very easily.
What would it take for you guys to believe? I'd love to hear from Turbolapp on this questions specifically.
There has been a huge revival of the Obama birther conspiracy lately, especially after the Sherriff of Maricopa county AZ (Yes, the same Sherriff Joe that the DOJ is trying to take to court for racial discrimination) came forward with evidence that points to the Long-form document being Created, without a doubt.
Check out this very balanced MSM piece on that:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikaajbOEWpk]Confirmed: Obamas Birth Certificate Not Authentic 2012 - YouTube[/ame]
I goes into detail on how they spent tens of thousands of dollars analyizing the PDF the whitehouse released and have "Proven" that it was created, not scanned in. There are also other issues in it like the wrong Stamp being used for the date.
For the really convincing evidence about the Date Stamp forgery, I refer you to this article:
Sheriff Joe wants Obama’s original draft card
Pretty convincing, but I'll concede that no one has proven here that date stamps from hawaii birth certificates are supposed to always be 4 digits in the first place.
Now, if that weren't enough, there's more... Much more.
The government-used E-verify system for SS numbers, at least at the time of the reporting, showed Obamas SSN as Fraudulent. There is sworn testimony of it and screenshots too.
-Not only did E-Verify flag it as fraudulent, but that author would have us believe that the range of SS numbers that it came from was given out at a later time than the president's birth.
Also just as bad, a Hawaiian election official has gone on record stating that his supervisor at the hospital Obama was supposedly born at told him that there was never a long-form birth certificate. They simply didn't issue them at the time so no one could possibly have one. He confirmed that with the HI Dept of Health, too.
So, the plot is getting thick again.
I have had serious doubts about birthers from the very beginning, but honestly, too damn many people are coming forward with too damn much evidence now... And it all fits together to form the same picture of Obama NOT being born when and where he says he was.
Could ALL of these people be simply making this shit up? The count seems too high for that now. Keep in mind that these people are coming out publically, which could hurt their careers very easily.
What would it take for you guys to believe? I'd love to hear from Turbolapp on this questions specifically.