Content Network Bidding

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goddfadda

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I guess this is a noobie question so I'm posting it here. I've been trying to figure out the Google Adwords content network and its making me go insane.

What I'm trying to do is get a shitload of traffic (duh). I was promoting an offer for Coupons.com for this test. I created a content network only campaign, and created an adgroup called 'Coupons'. Note: I did also do some unobvious keyword adgroups as well to get cheaper traffic (such as supermarket names), but I wanted to try it with the more commonly used terms. ie. "coupons" to get max traffic.


Inside I bid on the following terms (yes Im dumb giving this all away):

coupon
coupons
groceries coupon
groceries coupons
grocery coupon
grocery coupons
online grocery coupon

Set the bid to .26 and walked away. 24 hours later, I got like literally 2 impressions. Fuck that noise.

Ok, so now I repeat that with .51 and .75 cent bids. No impressions. Finally I'm like fuck it. Bid .96 cents. Within about 2 hours I started getting crazy amounts of clicks in a very short period. The traffic I wanted! CTR was .25%. avg CPC was .75 cents on my .96 bid. So, I basically blew $200 in about 1.5 hours on keywords I should probably be paying .05 for.

This campaign has an extremely low payout, which is why I picked it for the test. There lie the problem. I can't afford .75 cent clicks for this campaign. I need them to be .05 - .25.

It feels like there is some final piece to this puzzle I'm missing. Was I on the right track and just let Google give me the anal intruder for a day or 2 and my bids go down? Or will they continue to gang rape me like an 18 y/o on ruphies? Is the only key to get 3% CTR on the content network.... sounds impossible?! I understand google wants high CPM, but it doesn't seem right that I have to drop $200 each time I want to test a new ad for CTR.

For the record, the supermarket keywords also wanted rediculous CPC for my ad to show at more than 100 imps / day. I don't think keyword selection is going to save me money on the content network like it supposedly does on search. For example. Regardless of what term I bid on, I want to show on the sites talking about coupons. So whether I bid on 'coupons' or I bid on 'Publix' (supermarket), I still have to compete for the same 3 slot ad-block. I still have to pay $$$$.
 


sounds like you might need to try a placement targeted campaign vs a content. it can take a number of days, sometimes a week to get impressions with a content campaign. im not sure why. usually setting ur bids low and just waiting is the answer. otherwise, you do what you did, increase your CPC hoping to finally get impressions, when in fact you ads finally went active and now you're paying up the ass.

you can use google's site placement tool to find site in the content network related to "coupons". It can work ok, but sometimes will give you crap sites.

or you could use a site targeting tool like site sniper pro, which finds site with adsense regions on them in particular formats and locations, allowing you to quickly build a list of related site to try your ads on. Find it at... "Site Sniper Pro | Unofficial Site"

other than that, try to tighten up your "theme" with your adgroups, using 30-50 keywords per adgroup. Also, dont use matchtypes, as these arent used in content campaigns.

Some suggest excluding large sites like myspace and youtube since these are usually click happy people, in large volumes.

Hope that helps!
 
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I'm afraid you won't get cheap clicks on the coupon sites. Competition is high. I'm paying around $0.70/click and I have troubles to get into top 4 spots. So you gotta match or even beat that to receive constant impressions and clicks.
 
all you have to do is look at your average position once you are getting impressions. If the average position is greater than 3, you should probably bid higher. Its hard to tell without looking at everything, but a good key to determining why you aren't showing up is to look at your positioning.
 
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