curios what google support has to say about arbi?

[robertdotcom]

well i contacted them and this is what they answered :
"Hi Robert,

To provide some clarification, we are concerned with publishers whose
business model does not comply with the spirit of Google's Landing Page
Quality guidelines, and does not offer users a positive Google ads
experience. If we find that users are driven to pages with Google ads via
AdWords advertising, but our specialists find that the pages generally did
not provide substantial and useful information to the end-user, then we
will take action. In some cases, violations of our policies will result in
termination from the AdSense program.

We appreciate your understanding."


So we must be ok since we are doing arbitrage 2.0. That's my conclusion. Let me know if you think something else.

 

[dekalog6]

Even people doing arbi 2.0 sites are getting the notice. SandnSurf, a member here was fully TOS compliant with plr or original content and still got served. I think we need to move even further ahead. Call it arbi 2.5 or whatever.

 

[arz]

Inside AdSense: AdWords and AdSense: a perfect pair

 

[jened]

Even people doing arbi 2.0 sites are getting the notice. SandnSurf, a member here was fully TOS compliant with plr or original content and still got served. I think we need to move even further ahead. Call it arbi 2.5 or whatever.

you seen his sites to verify that?

 

[SleepyStarling]

Yeah, I'd like some verification as well before I simply assume that someone's gone belly up.

 

[ioksane]

I've never done arbi in my life, but I like the idea of it.

Are google refering to pages that are advertized through ADWORDS?

I thought arbi pages were advertized through cheaper PPC's?

Surely they can't grumble about arbi pages that are advertized on a different site, why would they?

PLUS, as long as a site provides value, or is percieved to provide it, I don't see sense in them banning it.

 

[dekalog6]

That's what he said in his posts. I assume he's telling the truth. If you're that suspicious why don't you PM him for the sites?

you seen his sites to verify that?

 

[Tricontinental]

Google already has a program for displaying landing page ads. Its called adsense for domains.

 

[halfpc]

Google already has a program for displaying landing page ads. Its called adsense for domains.

and, if you have a Google search box on your site, the results page is just sponsorized ads

 

[jened]

That's what he said in his posts. I assume he's telling the truth. If you're that suspicious why don't you PM him for the sites?

i don't doubt him but i'm not big on only going by an anecdotal story. someone else got banned who had arbi 1.0. what's the common ground here?i have a feeling more ppl are getting kicked out due to low performance aka shoemoney's original video post or doing adwords to adsense rather than their website layout/content.

 

[vai_lee]

Here's what I got:

=======================================
Hello XXX,

We have recently made a decision to no longer work with sites similar
to yours using similar traffic sources. As previously mentioned, our
primary concern is creating a positive user experience, and we found that the business model you've employed does not comply with the spirit of
Google's Landing Page Quality guidelines...

... at this time we ask that you not use targeted advertising to bring traffic to your site.

We appreciate your understanding.

Sincerely,

The Google AdSense Team
=======================================

It's not just because of arbi 1.0 or arbi 2.0.
They just ask publisher to stop sending paid traffic.

 

[Blastyourass]

You guys are doing something wrong and I bet it has to do with bringing what they call targeted traffic to your website and then what content is on your site.

I'm using high conent sites that bring in revelant traffic and in turn helping the dumb searcher get to his long tail keyword much quicker. Hence I target one word searchers and provide them with the info to really get where they want to go when they click on my ads. So a .05 click garnishes a $.75 or $1 click.

All my campaigns are profiatble but volume will be needed to reach $100-200 per day via adsense which is my goal and keep in TOS for Google. I'm guessing 3 more websites will get me there.

Does this make sense?

Here's what I got:

=======================================
Hello XXX,

We have recently made a decision to no longer work with sites similar
to yours using similar traffic sources. As previously mentioned, our
primary concern is creating a positive user experience, and we found that the business model you've employed does not comply with the spirit of
Google's Landing Page Quality guidelines...

... at this time we ask that you not use targeted advertising to bring traffic to your site.

We appreciate your understanding.

Sincerely,

The Google AdSense Team
=======================================

It's not just because of arbi 1.0 or arbi 2.0.
They just ask publisher to stop sending paid traffic.

 

[vai_lee]

You guys are doing something wrong and I bet it has to do with bringing what they call targeted traffic to your website and then what content is on your site.

I'm using high conent sites that bring in revelant traffic and in turn helping the dumb searcher get to his long tail keyword much quicker. Hence I target one word searchers and provide them with the info to really get where they want to go when they click on my ads. So a .05 click garnishes a $.75 or $1 click.

All my campaigns are profiatble but volume will be needed to reach $100-200 per day via adsense which is my goal and keep in TOS for Google. I'm guessing 3 more websites will get me there.

Does this make sense?

Dude you are right. We need more content on our sites.

But have you noticed that only big players are banned in this round? (those who make less than 10k in arbi are still alive)

Some guys's account is disabled even though they have great, unique, substantial and professional written content.

Get the point?

 

[Blastyourass]

yes, yes. They are getting the big guys out because alot of the sites were of no value for their adwords advertisers running and thus not converting for advertisers.

Yes, they may have had sites that had content but the real ones that were making big cash had many more sites of no value so they just cut them completely off as opposed to micromanaging their adsense accounts and banning one website and keeping another. They don't want to play cat and mouse with every account.

They are just cutting them off at the balls to be example for arbi wanna be's of the future, so others who enter this market know that it's Googles fucken way or no way.

Dude you are right. We need more content on our sites.

But have you noticed that only big players are banned in this round? (those who make less than 10k in arbi are still alive)

Some guys's account is disabled even though they have great, unique, substantial and professional written content.

Get the point?

 

[SleepyStarling]

BYA, I'm curious as to how to actually get your ads listed for one word searchers when those terms are usually the most expensive.

I just want to make sure I'm understanding what you guys are saying. I'm going to see if I can interpret all of the WF info that's been posted since the arbi notices went out from Google. It's not that I need an ordered list to function (hahahaa, I am hearing Jon's blog as I type this) so much as I keep seeing conflicting opinions on different threads, one person saying that even grayhats with good sites are being banned, or no, that's because of their black hat sites and not their gh sites, etc.

There are probably at least a few people on here who aren't so paranoid about competition that they're willing to speak about it openly. If you're good at what you do, have been doing it longer, and have more money to burn than noobs, you have nothing to worry about, right? Right.

Keep in mind that I know there is no 'standard' for what Arbi 1.0 is, etc., I'm just using names to define examples. Please feel free to correct or comment on any of this, of course.

1. We have to think about our own behavior when we surf the net to buy things, only as if we didn't know all of the tricks an experienced IT person does (obviously). One word keywords mean people are looking for info, whereas longer strings of keywords or "long-tail keywords" generally indicate an interest for product reviews or prices (which means an interest in buying).

2. Arbi 1.0 was MFA sites and landing page spammy looking links with little or no relevant info. Arbi 2.0 is the current model of building some content, original or automated, with keywords and Adsense or other affiliates, then using different long-tail keywords in an Adwords campaign to bring in targeted traffic.

3. Google is now cracking down on this because Arbi 2.0 pages are just pitt stops along the way to different ads. IOW, if you want to use long-tails, you'd better have some damn good content that delivers on CPC almost as if it's CPA, an online store, or a reputation beyond repute, like google.com.

4. Arbi 3.0 (or I should say one person's take on it) is somehow getting one word keywords cheaply, then converting them into buyers and using long-tail keywords within your site's content to affect the Adsense ads that are displayed?

Like I said, I'm still learning and I welcome elaborations or corrections on any of this.

 

[jened]

4. Arbi 3.0 (or I should say one person's take on it) is somehow getting one word keywords cheaply, then converting them into buyers and using long-tail keywords within your site's content to affect the Adsense ads that are displayed?

Like I said, I'm still learning and I welcome elaborations or corrections on any of this.

if you're gonna try to convert people into buyers in arbi 3, you may as well turn it into affiliate marketing?

 

[SleepyStarling]

if you're gonna try to convert people into buyers in arbi 3, you may as well turn it into affiliate marketing?

That's why I'm confused--it's not 'Arbi' anymore, as far as I can tell.

 

[Blastyourass]

That's why I'm confused--it's not 'Arbi' anymore, as far as I can tell.

Attempting to profit by exploiting price differences of identical or similar financial instruments, on different markets or in different forms. The ideal version is riskless arbitrage.

Here is a eXplanation from wiki on arbitrage in betting.

Arbitrage in theory
There are a number of potential arbitrage deals. Below is an explanation of some of them including formulas and risks associated with these arbitrage deals. The table below introduces a number of variables that will be used to formalise the arbitrage models.
VariableExplanations1Stake in outcome 1s2Stake in outcome 2o1Odds for outcome 1o2Odds for outcome 2r1Return if outcome 1 occursr2Return if outcome 2 occurs


Thats all we are is professional gamblers that have the best data that any gambler can dream of Google and their tools.

 

[arz]

But have you noticed that only big players are banned in this round? (those who make less than 10k in arbi are still alive)

People have reported in other forums accounts making $3k/month being banned. Google probably hasn't finished sending out those letters.

 

[Blastyourass]

if you're gonna try to convert people into buyers in arbi 3, you may as well turn it into affiliate marketing?

Yes I completely 100% understand what your saying and that's why I not only give them what they want. I give them more. I also offer affiliate deals, coupons and shit thats sticky to the consumer. It's completey a different approach then just doing a quick one page spamsense job. It's building an arbi site for the short term and the long serp's term.

If I make $5 a day in ppc with one site while I SEO for a search term with 200,000 searches then when I do reach high In the serps then it will be all profit via adsense and by then I'll know what affilaite offers will convert.By then no ppc and my traffic will explode and they will stay because I have a quality site that is relevant and helpful. That $5 will be $100 a day in 6-12 months and if I duplicate 10 plus times then we are talking good coin that is pretty much semi-passive

I'm still fine tuning every day to monetize but I'm getting 20% click throughs on ppc and 20-30% on adsense so its going ok.

It's really simple what I'm doing and I don't give a fuck what the pros do or say because I am not a pro or a follower. I learned without them and I make money without them. Yes they make more but that doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about.

I just had to throw that out there because some peeps think you need to make $70,000 a day to offer advice or help people who want help.

Go find a non-advertised single keyword and monetize it by taking the searcher where he wants to go, to the longtail keyword. Thats arbi 3.0 from BYA.

Its really that simple. The hard part is managing campaigns for me and watching them. I really need to learn PHP or something?