cURL & Zip Submits

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LazyD

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Maybe someone can shine some light on this but what is the possibility of using cURL on my site to submit the zip code for a zip submit offer and getting credit for it.

I would like to use a simple text input on my site for the zip code without the big annoying landing pages - once they enter it, it would go to Step 2 of the zip submit offer....

Only problem is, when you click the original affiliate link that takes you to Step 1 it goes through multiple redirects - If I were to skip those would it still be possible to get credit or am I shooting myself in the foot?
 


I know about curl and have experimented with things like this before.

The problem is, since it goes through multiple landing pages, it makes it almost impossible for curl to input the zipcode later on. I even consulted a curl expert on the issue and he confirmed this.

I also suggest that even if it is possible that you do not do it because affiliates have thier terms of service and their asterisks on their website to legally protect themselves for these "free" type offers.
 
they'll see this shit coming form the same IP and it wont work (my guess)
 
I've asked this question before, the answer was talk to your rep. If you're driving enough traffic you may be able to design your own landing page.
 
It's not an issue of referrer. They will see same IP & no forms filled out. The most you can get away with is white labeling the landing page and not the backend.
 
Im not worried about anything beyond Step #1, once they hit Step 2 they would just go to the Publishers Step 2 page...

Its a matter of getting the tracking to work for Step 1
 
engaged said:
they'll see this shit coming form the same IP and it wont work (my guess)
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Actually it depends how you program CURL to be used. When my team designed a curl script, it did in fact use the user's IP, without spoofing. This is because its actually the user loading the page. We did tests and found that the user's IP was the one recorded everytime.

LazyD said:
Im not worried about anything beyond Step #1, once they hit Step 2 they would just go to the Publishers Step 2 page...

Its a matter of getting the tracking to work for Step 1
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As I said before, getting to Step 2 will be extremely difficult.

What was suggested before will probably be the best advice for you. Contact your affiliate manager and if you have enough leads for it you can design your own landing page.
 
Pretty sure this is against most TOS's now and if you do any volume you will be stopped. Best thing to do is talk to your aff network, talk big volume, get a white label and get compliant. You will be much more profitable this way!

Good luck.

Tob
 
I've tried.

Copeac and I spent a lot of time trying to make this happen for one of my sites, and for a number of reasons, it didn't go through. (Not that they didn't try, Mike and his team are the best around.)

I'll attempt to dig up the email with the reasons.
 
What about this solution:
1. Put a 1x1 iframe in your page. This iframe loads the affiliate link and sets the cookie on the visitor's computer.
2. Copy the form from the landing page ("Step 1 page" as you've called it). Leave the original form method and action, change the design and layout.

When your visitor submits the form, they will already have the affiliate cookie and will be identified as your leads.

Cons:
- Your referrer in the program's stats (instead Step 1 - Step 2 they are going to see Your Page - Step 2).
- A LOT of clicks in the network's stats. To avoid this, you could load the iframe only when the visitor focuses on the form (TAB/mouse click).
 
yoey said:
Actually it depends how you program CURL to be used. When my team designed a curl script, it did in fact use the user's IP, without spoofing. This is because its actually the user loading the page. We did tests and found that the user's IP was the one recorded everytime.
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If the user's IP is the source of the request then it's not cURL making the request, it's the user. cURL resides on the server side and if it initiates a request then the server receiving the request will see the IP of the server, not the user. If you can introduce some logic here that contravenes this, I'd be interested to hear it because it would make my life easier, but it goes against everything I know. Normally this problem has to be solved with some kind of javascript solution, which is sub-optimal because javascript tends to have a varying failure rate depending on how it's used.
 
on-on said:
If the user's IP is the source of the request then it's not cURL making the request, it's the user. cURL resides on the server side and if it initiates a request then the server receiving the request will see the IP of the server, not the user. If you can introduce some logic here that contravenes this, I'd be interested to hear it because it would make my life easier, but it goes against everything I know. Normally this problem has to be solved with some kind of javascript solution, which is sub-optimal because javascript tends to have a varying failure rate depending on how it's used.
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Honestly i'd have to ask my programmers this because I thought the same as you. But I asked each programmer (they do not know each other) and each agreed that the user's IP was going to be displayed.
 
lenz said:
What about this solution:
1. Put a 1x1 iframe in your page. This iframe loads the affiliate link and sets the cookie on the visitor's computer.
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I've heard about this from a few different affiliates and the link busts out of the iframe making it untrackable
 
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