Edumacate me on Obama's fuck-ups

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evolutionvision

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I'm no longer in the US except for 35 days a year, so I don't concern myself too much with politics. I have however, seen so much evidence piling up from fellow WF'ers about some of the bad shit Obama is doing.

I'd love to see a big but simple list of fuck-ups that Obama is responsible for that I could share with my liberal friends to help educate them, and myself as well.



(Don't cream yourself Lukep :love-smiley-083:)
 


1. People will bitch about whatever president they have
2. The way the US is fucked up began much farther back than when Obama came in
 
I always thought America was always fucked, particularly with and after Bush, so I am a little confused about hating Obama thing as well. Then again just watching some news or day channels of American shows you can see that it is always over sensationalized. If that's what gets the best response out of Americans then I can definitely see them blaming some scapegoat as the reason why things are so bad
 
evolutionvision said:
I'd love to see a big but simple list of fuck-ups that Obama is responsible for that I could share with my liberal friends to help educate them, and myself as well.
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Your liberal friends already know he is a horrible president, but they will vote for him because all Republicans are racist bible thumpers and hate women, and third party candidates are all crazy nutjobs.
 
There will always be Pros and Cons of being a president of the US. No matter how one may see it everyone has a right to have their own opinion and judgement. Obama has done some good things and other things I can't comprehend why. I also think his actions are driven by private groups that are not expose to the public. As I said that is my take.
 
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Progressives and the Ron Paul fallacies - Salon.com

The candidate supported by progressives — President Obama — himself holds heinous views on a slew of critical issues and himself has done heinous things with the power he has been vested. He has slaughtered civilians — Muslim children by the dozens — not once or twice, but continuously in numerous nations with drones, cluster bombs and other forms of attack. He has sought to overturn a global ban on cluster bombs. He has institutionalized the power of Presidents — in secret and with no checks — to target American citizens for assassination-by-CIA, far from any battlefield. He has waged an unprecedented war against whistleblowers, the protection of which was once a liberal shibboleth. He rendered permanently irrelevant the War Powers Resolution, a crown jewel in the list of post-Vietnam liberal accomplishments, and thus enshrined the power of Presidents to wage war even in the face of a Congressional vote against it. His obsession with secrecy is so extreme that it has become darkly laughable in its manifestations, and he even worked to amend the Freedom of Information Act (another crown jewel of liberal legislative successes) when compliance became inconvenient.

He has entrenched for a generation the once-reviled, once-radical Bush/Cheney Terrorism powers of indefinite detention, military commissions, and the state secret privilege as a weapon to immunize political leaders from the rule of law. He has shielded Bush era criminals from every last form of accountability. He has vigorously prosecuted the cruel and supremely racist War on Drugs, including those parts he vowed during the campaign to relinquish — a war which devastates minority communities and encages and converts into felons huge numbers of minority youth for no good reason. He has empowered thieving bankers through the Wall Street bailout, Fed secrecy, efforts to shield mortgage defrauders from prosecution, and the appointment of an endless roster of former Goldman, Sachs executives and lobbyists. He’s brought the nation to a full-on Cold War and a covert hot war with Iran, on the brink of far greater hostilities. He has made the U.S. as subservient as ever to the destructive agenda of the right-wing Israeli government. His support for some of the Arab world’s most repressive regimes is as strong as ever.

Most of all, America’s National Security State, its Surveillance State, and its posture of endless war is more robust than ever before. The nation suffers from what National Journal‘s Michael Hirsh just christened “Obama’s Romance with the CIA.” He has created what The Washington Post just dubbed"a vast drone/killing operation,” all behind an impenetrable wall of secrecy and without a shred of oversight. Obama’s steadfast devotion to what Dana Priest and William Arkin called “Top Secret America” has severe domestic repercussions as well, building up vast debt and deficits in the name of militarism that create the pretext for the “austerity” measures which the Washington class (including Obama) is plotting to impose on America’s middle and lower classes.

The simple fact is that progressives are supporting a candidate for President who has done all of that — things liberalism has long held to be pernicious. I know it’s annoying and miserable to hear. Progressives like to think of themselves as the faction that stands for peace, opposes wars, believes in due process and civil liberties, distrusts the military-industrial complex, supports candidates who are devoted to individual rights, transparency and economic equality. All of these facts — like the history laid out by Stoller in that essay — negate that desired self-perception. These facts demonstrate that the leader progressives have empowered and will empower again has worked in direct opposition to those values and engaged in conduct that is nothing short of horrific. So there is an eagerness to avoid hearing about them, to pretend they don’t exist. And there’s a corresponding hostility toward those who point them out, who insist that they not be ignored.

The parallel reality — the undeniable fact — is that all of these listed heinous views and actions from Barack Obama have been vehemently opposed and condemned by Ron Paul: and among the major GOP candidates, only by Ron Paul. For that reason, Paul’s candidacy forces progressives to face the hideous positions and actions of their candidate, of the person they want to empower for another four years. If Paul were not in the race or were not receiving attention, none of these issues would receive any attention because all the other major GOP candidates either agree with Obama on these matters or hold even worse views.
 
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Tucky said:
1. People will bitch about whatever president they have
2. The way the US is fucked up began much farther back than when Obama came in
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But he's black. Sooooooooo..... Well, you know how it goes.


(I don't vote, so shut the hell up with your scripted political "insults" Hellblazer and all Hellblazer Jr's...)
 
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