Eli's Seo Empire re-factored?

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Eli is a boss, but how would you guys refactor the linking pyramid structure to be updated to now comparing to 2007 when he first posted this epicness?

Database sites, spammed sites, cycle sites. Times have changed - we r getting burned on many different fronts now. Please discuss!

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JCash said:
This article from seomoz SEOmoz | Website Analytics vs. Competitive Intelligence Metrics suggests SEO doesn't actually work - no matter what you do, you'll just get organic search traffic from wacky keywords (like WF and "skittles" and V7N and "oprah north korea") and the majority of your traffic will be referred from high-traffic sites.
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U misunderstood it - they r just saying there is no analytic tool accurate enough to predict exact rankings. Now how is it even relevant to the OP?
 
Vegashobo said:
Eli is a boss, but how would you guys refactor the linking pyramid structure to be updated to now comparing to 2007 when he first posted this epicness?

Database sites, spammed sites, cycle sites. Times have changed - we r getting burned on many different fronts now. Please discuss!

:)
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You may have read a few, or maybe all, of his blog posts, but you haven't understood his message.

When I first read his blog, it was like I had been living my life with a heroine needle continuously injecting misinformation and SEO propaganda into me and was now dealing with the shakes you get through detox.

It seems you haven't taken your needle out yet.

So, let me sum up his message and give it to you straight:

The singular goal of a search engine is to provide results as relevant as possible to what the visitor is searching for. Google continuously updates its algorithm to achieve this. No matter the update, each update continuously pushes closer and closer to trying to view a website's relevancy, usefulness, and usability to provide the best user experience possible.

In short: if you constantly optimize your website, both on-site and off-site , with these points in mind, it doesn't matter what happens with their algorithm changes, you will be much better off than 99% of your competition.

So, if you feel that you're constantly struggling to rank and being ass raped by Google, you're doing it wrong.
 
Rexibit said:
You may have read a few, or maybe all, of his blog posts, but you haven't understood his message.

When I first read his blog, it was like I had been living my life with a heroine needle continuously injecting misinformation and SEO propaganda into me and was now dealing with the shakes you get through detox.

It seems you haven't taken your needle out yet.

So, let me sum up his message and give it to you straight:

The singular goal of a search engine is to provide results as relevant as possible to what the visitor is searching for. Google continuously updates its algorithm to achieve this. No matter the update, each update continuously pushes closer and closer to trying to view a website's relevancy, usefulness, and usability to provide the best user experience possible.

In short: if you constantly optimize your website, both on-site and off-site , with these points in mind, it doesn't matter what happens with their algorithm changes, you will be much better off than 99% of your competition.

So, if you feel that you're constantly struggling to rank and being ass raped by Google, you're doing it wrong.
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I know what you saying and it is true, I do get my ass handed to me on the daily basis, but that is not the reason. My biggest point was how would you structure your network both in site quality, scalability and automation without killing the golden rule - every site has to pay for itself. Luke wrote his approach in his 3k post - content to pass copyscape and rss feed, set and forget - that is one way to build it up.

Yeah - if you go ranking site by site filling it up with relevant content and doing your usual BMB+link pyramid+DFB, that is fine, but I am talking scale.

U know what i mean? :)
 
Vegashobo said:
I know what you saying and it is true, I do get my ass handed to me on the daily basis, but that is not the reason. My biggest point was how would you structure your network both in site quality, scalability and automation without killing the golden rule - every site has to pay for itself. Luke wrote his approach in his 3k post - content to pass copyscape and rss feed, set and forget - that is one way to build it up.

Yeah - if you go ranking site by site filling it up with relevant content and doing your usual BMB+link pyramid+DFB, that is fine, but I am talking scale.

U know what i mean? :)
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If you followed any one post on that blog to completion you wouldn't be asking these questions here now.

Learning how to do the shit on that blog from top to bottom is just as relevant as it ever was.
 
soulbyproxy said:
If you followed any one post on that blog to completion you wouldn't be asking these questions here now.

Learning how to do the shit on that blog from top to bottom is just as relevant as it ever was.
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Hmmm, ok . So do you have any of the cycle sites? Do you use them, are they still successful? What do you use for automation, how you interlink to other hubs, is it symmetrical or random? Elaborate on useful info please, don't just try to make the point.
 
Vegashobo said:
Hmmm, ok . So do you have any of the cycle sites? Do you use them, are they still successful? What do you use for automation, how you interlink to other hubs, is it symmetrical or random? Elaborate on useful info please, don't just try to make the point.
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If you don't want him to make a point, yet want him to spend the time spoon feeding you, then you still wouldn't understand how to take and apply the knowledge in other areas anyway. So, why should he?

Eli's #1 point, and often mentioned in nearly every post, was that he wasn't going to spoon feed you a specific way to do any specific topic because you would only do it that way and not learn how to apply the concepts in other situations.

YOU are exactly the type of person he was writing about to wake up and think outside the bun.

A "Cycle" site is a concept, not a specific type of a site. There are sites which get thrown up and taken down based on one or many variables automatically or manually. There are parts of sites which do this same behavior. They could be on your network or a parasite. These are all just examples.

The concept though is the same between all and doesn't have to be tied to a specific situation if you understand that concept and can see the big picture at when and how to apply them no matter the situation. You obviously haven't had that realization yet, so him outing his method (if he did them) wouldn't help you. You'd only say to yourself, "Oh, I can use them in that specific niche" and go off and ask about others to use them in.

Again, you NEED to learn the pieces and be able to see how they fit together. Then you can break down and apply them in other situations without having to say "Does this still work? How?", because SEO and making money online really hasn't changed at all over the last 10+ years when you break it down.
 
Never fear, Eli has informed me that he will complete part II after he is done handing Alec Baldwin's ass to him in a neverending round of Words With Friends.

Stay tuned.
 
turbolapp said:
Never fear, Eli has informed me that he will complete part II after he is done handing Alec Baldwin's ass to him in a neverending round of Words With Friends.

Stay tuned.
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Just chatted with him on Skype, Lauren, and he mentioned that match too. Sounds like Alec has been chatting up his producer contacts and wants to turn it into one of those commercial short series for the app to get back at the airlines. Right now Alec's been saying they're calling the series, "Words on a Plane" because one of the writers thinks it's funny.
 
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