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xha44a

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Hi Guys,

OK - so I'm throwing together a quick plan for a PBN. I feel I have some basics down. I'm getting good at picking up good quality domains. I've been picking up Pr 1, 2 expired domains in my niche (real pr, not spammed) for $20 each using a couple twists. I've also (thanks WF for the idea) found my first decent PR2 domain scraping expired lists from a long time ago. So - I feel I have the domains part covered. Next up, the setup.

Here's where I'm unsure if I'm doing this right. I have 6 small VPS with unique C block ip's. Some are unique B block. So I'm assuming that's enough hosting room to get started. I was wondering if I can use these VPS' for

1) My highly targeted domains which will be my tier 1 links..
2) My less targeted domains, which will be the Tier 2 for my Tier 1 links. Here's a diagram I whipped up in Confluence (which is great for organizing your site plans/info by the way)...

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Is something like that going to be OK? I will only have 6 IP's linking to my money site. Also the Tier 2 links (semi related domains) will be hosted on those same 6 IPs, but never link to a Tier 1 domain on the same IP.

Will this setup be OK?

I hope this is making sense lol - not the best at explaining stuff sometimes.

Also for content, does anyone know a relatively quick way to to rebuild a site off archive.org? Some of these sites I got were several hundred pages and I'm feeling mildly overwhelmed with the idea of rebuilding a dozen of them. Help :-(

New content - I'm going to schedule 1 post a week to each of these for a couple months. Then I will drop an contextual link in a post as well as a homepage link. Is that the most effective?

Also any tips/tricks you would have and wish to share would be muchly apprecated :-)
 


I will answer to one of your mistakes, but not all of them, since a lot of them are unique and difficult to answer based on the fact than any answer would be based on pure observation only.

One more thing, be weary when asking for SEO advice on a public forum, wickedfire is one of the better SEO forums (if not the best), but you're going to get people telling you how to run your business when they aren't even sure how to run their own.

One problem I would address, having the 2nd tier links be on the same hosting accounts. That to me looks funny, not saying it wouldn't work but I would think conventional wisdom would be to have them on different IP ranges than your money site links.
 
xha44a said:
Also for content, does anyone know a relatively quick way to to rebuild a site off archive.org?
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I have an archive.org scraper than can scrape and send the report via email or some other medium, it's not finalized yet but it's scraping just fine, it will be announced on here in the BST when it's completed. BST already purchased.
 
As Skohh said, it would be smart to host your Tier 2 sites on completely different IPs than your Tier 1 sites. Since these are only for links, I would pick up some inexpensive shared hosting packages and place them on those.
 
skohh said:
One more thing, be weary when asking for SEO advice on a public forum, wickedfire is one of the better SEO forums (if not the best), but you're going to get people telling you how to run your business when they aren't even sure how to run their own.

One problem I would address, having the 2nd tier links be on the same hosting accounts. That to me looks funny, not saying it wouldn't work but I would think conventional wisdom would be to have them on different IP ranges than your money site links.
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Hi,

Thanks for your reply - I'm aware that I will have all sorts of people telling me everything they can dream up of - hopefully though amidst all the chaff I get some good stuff ;-)

I guess my issue is I feel somehow like I'm wasting resources having only 1 website on each VPS. Admittedly they're not expensive VPS - I'm paying between $1.33 - $2/month for each - and that's with up to 2 GB ram dedicated. It's not a ton of money but I just feel like I should be able to use these more. From what you're saying, I guess not.


skohh said:
I have an archive.org scraper than can scrape and send the report via email or some other medium, it's not finalized yet but it's scraping just fine, it will be announced on here in the BST when it's completed. BST already purchased.
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Hi,

Since you mentioned it, I took some time searching through Google and pretty much found the same thing. Except it also allegedly scrapes Google cache and a whole bunch of other archives as well to get the most complete picture. Thanks though.

Scutter said:
As Skohh said, it would be smart to host your Tier 2 sites on completely different IPs than your Tier 1 sites. Since these are only for links, I would pick up some inexpensive shared hosting packages and place them on those.
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I guess so. I've just rarely been able to find shared packages cheaper than VPS'. At low end box you'll find VPS's sometimes for under $2/mo. I have a hard time finding shared for that price and am watching my pennies pretty closely. Guess I'll have to start branching out and looking.
 
xha44a,

I've looked closely at your image and while I understand the reasoning of the fellas above for not hosting your tier 2's on the same servers as your tier 1's, I think you'll likely be okay since you aren't linking "Tier 2 - Server A" to "Tier 1 - Server A". However, the larger this gets, the more obvious it gets. Because you suddenly have a vortex of a certain set of IP's all circle jerking each other pretty hard.

In response to your PM, which I've explained in more detail, was a question of saving money by sharing servers among your network. I hadn't read this thread before replying to the PM, so my response was a bit off the mark. You're going for what I called "Version 2" style of network building. That's the kind I like too.

However, I described what I called "Version 1" to you as well, because it pertained to your question. I think you were asking the question in relation to a "Version 2" style network, which isn't really applicable. The only way to pull off Version 2 correctly is to pony up and pay the bill. You seem to have found some dirt cheap method of hosting though. I'd be wary of crazy down times and what not at that price.

Anyways, I cooked this up and might as well share it here. I purposefully left it vague. People need to be thinking critically about this issue. I'm not coming back to explain anything. It should be pretty obvious with a bit of thinking what's going on with this picture:

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The difference between Version 1 and Version 2 style networks (some terms I made up on the fly) is whether or not you're sticking to the same vertical/site. Lots of sites in one vertical? Version 2. One money site? Version 2. Lots of sites in lots of verticals? The picture applies.

Have fun!
 
 
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