Has the cell-phone race ever been this POLARIZED?!

Paper_Chase

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Shit is going to another level.

My entire Facebook wall is full of anti-apple videos, and then the iSheeple trying to defend themselves in the comments. I've personally been in 3 or 4 heated debates over this shit, and I own a Blackberry Bold!

I personally think it is great. Competition only benefits the consumers. I think Apple has started a shitstorm with all their lawsuits. They dun goofed I believe. They poked a bear in Samsung, now they will pay the price.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf5-Prx19ZM]The Next Big Thing is Already Here -- Samsung Galaxy S III - YouTube[/ame]
 


The ad is funny but I think it's a horrible idea. It's one thing to poke fun at the Iphone, but this one pretty much pokes fun at the actual Iphone consumer.

Not a great way to convince Iphone users to switch to a galaxy S3.
 
The ad is funny but I think it's a horrible idea. It's one thing to poke fun at the Iphone, but this one pretty much pokes fun at the actual Iphone consumer.

Not a great way to convince Iphone users to switch to a galaxy S3.

I don't think they are trying to convert the stereotypical Apple "fanboy" who waits in line for their phone. They are trying to convert the people who aren't loyal to any brand, and are looking to make a smartphone decision pretty soon.
 
lol @ even trying to compare iPhone to other smartphones when iPhone revolutionized the category so dramatically it carved out an entirely new category. There are iPhones and then there are smartphones. That's part of the whole genius IMO and why it's impossible to talk iSheeple out of wanting one based on a specs argument alone. It's got almost nothing to do with specs. iPhone will continue to sell like fucking crack.

As for the Samsung ads, I've only read about them and haven't watched them, but they seem to alienate the consumer and would be on-the-fence types (who are almost surely leaning towards the iPhone). Seems like it'd back fire like their Facebook ad campaign did.
 
lol @ even trying to compare iPhone to other smartphones when iPhone revolutionized the category so dramatically it carved out an entirely new category. There are iPhones and then there are smartphones. That's part of the whole genius IMO and why it's impossible to talk iSheeple out of wanting one based on a specs argument alone. It's got almost nothing to do with specs. iPhone will continue to sell like fucking crack.

As for the Samsung ads, I've only read about them and haven't watched them, but they seem to alienate the consumer and would be on-the-fence types (who are almost surely leaning towards the iPhone). Seems like it'd back fire like their Facebook ad campaign did.

If you want to disregard specs, then fine. Let's talk about software then. Android Jelly Bean with Google Now is miles ahead of the current iOS. No denying that.
 
I'll deny it. My iPhone + iPad + MacBook all work beautifully together. My Jelly Bean device hangs, has slowdowns, doesn't work as seamlessly and probably won't be compatible with the next OS update.

It's Samsung who poked the bear, they've been ripping off their asian competitors for ages and now they're getting smacked by the US IP system. Samsung is a bunch of ripoff artists and they deserve to be told via a fine to go innovate on their own.
 
My iPhone + iPad + MacBook all work beautifully together.

Not gonna deny that either. The Apple eco-system when self contained is BAD ASS. Something all other tech companies must be jelly over.

Back to my OP though. Do you guys remember a time when the cell-phone race was this heated?
 
I don't think they are trying to convert the stereotypical Apple "fanboy" who waits in line for their phone. They are trying to convert the people who aren't loyal to any brand, and are looking to make a smartphone decision pretty soon.

I agree with this.

That ad has effectively drawn the line in the sand.

From a marketing perspective, it wouldn't be reasonable to try to convert apple fanboys over. Talk about a literal marketing budget black hole that would be.
 
I'll deny it. My iPhone + iPad + MacBook all work beautifully together. My Jelly Bean device hangs, has slowdowns, doesn't work as seamlessly and probably won't be compatible with the next OS update.

It's Samsung who poked the bear, they've been ripping off their asian competitors for ages and now they're getting smacked by the US IP system. Samsung is a bunch of ripoff artists and they deserve to be told via a fine to go innovate on their own.
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It's Samsung who poked the bear, they've been ripping off their asian competitors for ages and now they're getting smacked by the US IP system. Samsung is a bunch of ripoff artists and they deserve to be told via a fine to go innovate on their own.

IT's not like they have ever been caught before... oh yeah they had execs go to US Prisons for price fixing. Of course they could care less about any of it, they will shake it off, keep all of the "win" they have amassed and move on.

Just as with the price fixing case where the execs were given a huge bonus for pleading guilty and ending the case, the company paid their fine, etc - they will simply take the hit and win again in the future.
 
I had an Incredible and that shit crashed like every other day.

Everyone else I know with an Android has the same issues.

I like knowing that my iPhone isn't gonna crash or run slow. And it has good battery life.

But I am curious to see what this Samsung brings to the table. Competition is always good for the consumer.
 
The HTC Incredible was released over two years ago, and launched with Eclair (Android 2.1). Android has come a looooooong way since then.
 
Here we go again :-)

I just think that rather than moving on and building better phones (with a different design and look), Samsung is busy taking revenge. Telling a iPhone consumer to switch to PLASTIC made cheap ass Samsung phone with a bloated jelly bean OS is not going to work out in this lifetime.

With hundreds of reviewers and critics calling iPhone 5 a failure, consumers continue to believe in their PLATFORM. I don't like to repeat again, but people still do not understand that Apple has created strong ecosystem unlike android.

There are many advantages of a single iOS ecosystem over android. Anyone can just plugin in android with their own BS version. No wonder many games which work on S3 or S2 dont work on HTC or vice versa. Device compatibility is the worst in android. As a developer, we can't just own all those 1000+ models with literally 50 added everyday by some crappy chinese manufactures.

The only reason people buy Android phones becoz they are CHEAP. Yes, I said that before and I will say that AGAIN.

If apple competes on price, Samsung will be back focusing on their HDTV.
 
lol @ even trying to compare iPhone to other smartphones when iPhone revolutionized the category so dramatically it carved out an entirely new category.

Check the timeline. People who make this claim usually weren't paying very close attention to mobile technology trends until after smartphones ousted feature phones as the default consumer purchase. If you're considering the brilliance of their branding and marketing as part of that "revolutionary" equation, then yes, I suppose I agree.

While I prefer Android, I'm definitely a big fan of what Apple has done. Huge fan. They have indeed played a huge roll in moving the entire industry forward. But they are too often given the sole credit for "inventing" a category that already existed long before Apple and Google even entered the market. They certainly played a primary role in popularizing it... but Palm, Blackberry, and Microsoft had been making smartphones for quite some time.

Remember the T-Mobile Sidekick? I'd say that was pretty notable in terms of the early smartphone days from a consumer success standpoint. The Sidekick was made by a company called Danger. The Co-Founder of Danger was Andy Rubin. He left that company in 2003 to start Android which was later purchased by Google in 2005. The first iPhone came out in 2007. The first Android phone launched in 2008, but as part of a bigger picture "Open Handset Alliance", Android required much more cooperation among dozens of companies.

A lot of this was part of a natural evolution. Apple didn't invent the concept of a smartphone and grace the universe with its presence. They nailed the timing for the technology, built the best one the world had seen to date, leveraged their brand to maximize the product's value, and created an unstoppable amount of momentum that has further propelled Apple to the top of the tech world. But if you step back and look at the bigger picture... Apple gets a little too much credit for "carving out an entirely new category" when the industry was already headed in that direction. In reality, much of the position they've built and the mindset advantages they've earned should be considered a lesson in first mover advantage (among other things).

When discussing "revolutionary", I'd also consider the key difference of Android vs. Apple in terms of business model and their respective levels of industry disruption. In all honesty, I think the competition has been incredibly beneficial for the companies and consumers alike. It's Jordan vs. Bird, Ali vs. Frazier, ... and this storm has been brewing for a LONG time:
Google Exec: Android Will Outsell iPhone - - - Informationweek

Just to clarify, don't get me wrong: Apple still deserves an absurd amount of credit. Amazing company with an amazing product. And yes, a revolutionary product all things considered. But Apple did not invent the smartphone. Not even close. There is a LOT more to that story.
 
There are many advantages of a single iOS ecosystem over android.

Correct. But it's a two way street, which I'm assuming you'll find out when you buy the iPhone 5 and half of your apps and games have black letterboxing on both sides of your shiny new 4-inch screen that Android first enjoyed in 2009.

On one hand, uniformity and reliability. On the other hand, flexibility and options. Try both, choose which one you like, and stop pretending one is hands-down better than the other. They're both good, but good for different people with different preferences. It's the beautiful part of the iOS vs Android battle... one of them doesn't have to win, and in fact, that's not what we should want.