I suck at marketing.

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So...I'm beginning to realize that I completely suck ass at marketing. I have been making okay money the past year or so but the large majority of it has been from 1-2 niches (rebills no less) that I started making money with right off the bat.

Now every campaign I've started since then has been a total flop...and I'm at the point where I feel like a total retard. I've even resorted to buying some guru products because I don't know where to start....:repuke:

Do any of you kind souls have some tips for me?

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You shouldn't do something you're not good at or don't enjoy. You seem to have profited greatly from rebills, most likely from ripping off other people's landing pages and strategies. Now that you can't do that anymore you're struggling. Does that sound like you're particularly invested in this industry? Hopping on the latest bandwagon isn't an option anymore.

The solution to your problem would be to dedicate your time and focus to marketing, keep testing, and learning about the industry.
 
Suggesting #1... find skinner boob pictures. Big titties don't count if they're on BBWs.

Been stalking off and on for 3 years and popped my first post cherry due to my dismay.
 
chatmasta said:
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You're weird.

BluAffiliate said:
You shouldn't do something you're not good at or don't enjoy. You seem to have profited greatly from rebills, most likely from ripping off other people's landing pages and strategies. Now that you can't do that anymore you're struggling. Does that sound like you're particularly invested in this industry? Hopping on the latest bandwagon isn't an option anymore.

The solution to your problem would be to dedicate your time and focus to marketing, keep testing, and learning about the industry.
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Noted. Thank you for the advice.

jmizzle said:
Suggesting #1... find skinner boob pictures. Big titties don't count if they're on BBWs.
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You must have a very different criteria for BBW than I do.
 
So how exactly did you manage to get that lucky for a year, and now you realize you have no skills to fall back on? What did you do to make those campaigns profitable, or did you really just get that lucky?

I'm only speaking for myself, but this is exactly why I've focused so much on SEO and not flash in the pan PPC stuff. Yeah, I know it can be major bank, but it's even more fickle than properly SEO'ing a site to the number #1 spot in Google.

So now that every campaign is a flop, you should be learning at bare minimum what's not working. Are you experimenting and testing different landers, ad copy, keywords etc. Do the offers just plain suck ass?

What do you think the problem is? You made money before, so what are you doing differently with these bad campaigns that you didn't do on the profitable ones?
 
You had 1 year where you could have made a change and get some other stuff going and you missed it. Now it is going to get hard.

Actually print every information or w/e you have about your "fail" campaigns and start to learn what went wrong. You can learn as much as from mistakes as from succesfull campaigns.

Look at every single detail you have until you are happy with the result and the conclusion. When you can say after that more then "i suck" but something like this traffic source is bad for my product but group x would be perfect then you have a new way to start.

If you want you could provide 1 fail campa9ign to the public and make a thread out of it to discuss it. Would help others also :)

good luck
 
I'd say read Cashvertising or other books on advertising, I've been doing that and it's definitely helped me write better headlines/copies.
 
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fucking great pics IMHO Me like.

I second the advice efeezy has said. And would add the following advice.

*unsubscribe from those bullshit guru lists you are on they will fuck up your focus.

*If you feel you need to learn how to handle a new traffic source like PPC, PPV, SEO, List building etc but don't know how to do it and don't want to spend any money go over to black hat world.com and research the download section for some good step by step instructions

Here is a non-dickroll link to the downloads section:Member Downloads - Black Hat Forum Black Hat SEO

*last but not least write out goal for yourself and write down where you want to be financially in 3-6 months time. Then write out a plan of attack of how you plan on reaching that goal and break it down into daily tasks and stick to it.

my two cents worth
 
Find someone knowledgeable and trustworthy to team up with in your initiatives (ideally a good friend)... I find that working alone is tough because when you lose the motivation, no one is gonna kick your butt.
 
Cracker said:
the large majority of it has been from 1-2 niches (rebills no less) that I started making money with right off the bat.

Do any of you kind souls have some tips for me?
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1) Stick with those 1-2 niches
2) Find similar offers (if you can't find/don't want to do rebills)
3) Write a presell page
4) Send traffic to presell
5) Optimize (i.e. trim the fat, split test offers & LPs, etc..)
6) Profit

That will be one easy payment of $97...
 
Buddy, you've got the traffic.. It's just a matter of testing before you get things profiting again. Disregard anyone telling you to drop out of the game, that's pathetic. Affiliate marketing will always make $, even if it's just at the side.

Now, don't think in terms of offer types (ie. "continuity only").. rather (1) identify what demographic your traffic predominantly is, (2) take out an hour or two and go through any network's offers manually, (3) make a list of offers that'd appeal to your demographic and how you could spin it. You'll come up with sooo many new ideas, trust.

Concentrate on traffic you're already comfortable with for starters.. If you jump around traffic sources trying new things during rough times, from my experience you'll demotivate yourself further.. It's one thing figuring out what verticals will work, it's another trying to figure it out on an entirely new traffic source.. Don't dig the hole deeper. Stick to the traffic you know, test new verticals catering to the same demographic, hopefully bank. :)
 
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