Java & JSP

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Anyone write their sites using java and associated technologies? Ive been looking to start dabbling in it, and Im curious as to peoples experience with it. I currently use PHP, so if anyone has used both and can offer some opinions on each, thatd be great.
 


i've wanted to make this jump too from PHP. i've played with java off and on since i first learned it in college (back in 1999) but not sure where to start with JSP.
 
Especially with Google releasing GWT, I think Im gonna branch off and try some Java apps. Hopefully I can find a few resources, and Im giving consideration to keeping a blog about the process.
 
I usually write new projects with Java. It feels so much "safer" than jsut some PHP-Scripts that dson't even know about types. If you wanna start with Java I strongly recommed using the Spring Framework ([SIZE=-1]www.springframework.org/ [/SIZE]). Spring makes developing Java SO much easier. And take a look at the Jakarta Commons (http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/). They have so many solutions for common problems.


If anyone has a specific question I can try to help him out here in the forum ;)

Kind regards, Hans
 
Great links, definately along the lines of what I was looking for.

I am curious as what host (if any) you are using. My current host isn't set up for java development. My plan at the moment is to get my own setup going at first, so I can learn the basics and get started without worrying about changing hosts - but down the road I may have to look for a host that supports java and php.
 
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I am curious as what host (if any) you are using. My current host isn't set up for java development. My plan at the moment is to get my own setup going at first, so I can learn the basics and get started without worrying about changing hosts - but down the road I may have to look for a host that supports java and php.
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Yeah, that's a bit of a problem. If you feel save to set up your own dedicated server, I would recommend getting your own dedicted server. Virtual private servers are no good idea, since you are sharing the memory with the other users and Java can be really memory-consuming. I think there are also some providers with shared hosting on Java-Servers. But there you might run into problems, if you would like to install special libraries, such as the Spring-Framework.
Most of my Java-based projects are aimed at a german audience and I host them on a server here in Germany. You get a fine dedicated server with full root access for as low as like USD30. Prices in the US are unfortunatly much higher :crap: But I am looking for a solid hoster of dedicted servers in the US too at the moment.

For starting you can set up your own environment on your local machine. I recommend the "Jakarta Tomcat" Server in combination with an Apache. The Apache can be configured to serve static content like images, CSS or external Javascript files. The dynamic JSP-Stuff or Servlets are delegated to the Tomcat Server using techniques like the Mod-JK or even URL-Rewriting.

Kind regards, Hans
 
I primarily program in Java at my work and very comfortable with it. The only reason I see JSP hasn't taken off is lack of hosting providers at reasonable prices. JSP/Java hosting costs are at much higher level compared to PHP.

If hosting costs goes down - Java/JSP programming is breeze.

If there is any good hosting provider offering JSP/Java hosting at reasonable price I would like to get it :)
 
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