Kids Lemonade Stand Fined $500 And Shut Down By County
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Well there's a lot of risks with food, health and safty is very important and hence you need license from the authorities to do this kind of stuff.
I'm all for people being enterprising and doing stuff for charity, but in the process does not mean you have free reign and you get a waiver for the rules and regulations laid out for everyone to follow.
Home made lemonade sounds trivil, but there's a lot at play here, in India there's no permits or health requiresments people do whatever they friggin like and the food hygiene over there is atrotious. Locals have all sorts of diseases, if you travel there, and even if you live in a posh hotel, you're still likely to get the runs big time.
I find it funny how people get all emotional and think the law is supposed to serve them only, and not for all the people as a group, the woman made the claim "The message to kids is, there's no American dream.", no that's not the message at all, the message is you need to be enterprising but make sure you follow the rules, everyone else has to pay taxes, licenses and rates, you don't get free reign to make money on public property without paying your dues, you can take the message that way, or you can be sensible and tell your kids they need to pay their dues and be responsible citizens.
Anyone sane and really gave a damn about others, would have at least phoned the council and ask if they have permission to sell lemondae there instead of of just doing it without asking
I'm all for people being enterprising and doing stuff for charity, but in the process does not mean you have free reign and you get a waiver for the rules and regulations laid out for everyone to follow.
Home made lemonade sounds trivil, but there's a lot at play here, in India there's no permits or health requiresments people do whatever they friggin like and the food hygiene over there is atrotious. Locals have all sorts of diseases, if you travel there, and even if you live in a posh hotel, you're still likely to get the runs big time.
I find it funny how people get all emotional and think the law is supposed to serve them only, and not for all the people as a group, the woman made the claim "The message to kids is, there's no American dream.", no that's not the message at all, the message is you need to be enterprising but make sure you follow the rules, everyone else has to pay taxes, licenses and rates, you don't get free reign to make money on public property without paying your dues, you can take the message that way, or you can be sensible and tell your kids they need to pay their dues and be responsible citizens.
Anyone sane and really gave a damn about others, would have at least phoned the council and ask if they have permission to sell lemondae there instead of of just doing it without asking
Retards in that story. They don't understand the difference between applying for, paying for and obtaining a permit vs. just doing whatever the fuck you want?
You fuckin serious? If so..
(1) This is not India. The population isn't overwhelmed by diseases.
(2) Requiring people to register with the county for a $300 permit to sell lemonade is just another way to rape citizens in order to generate revenue; it has NOTHING to do with ensuring public safety.
(3) It's a lemonade stand. A LEMONADE STAND. You're seeming to confuse this with a legitimate start-up aimed at becoming a fortune 500 company.
EDIT: If the stand they setup is on their own property, I stick by my points above.. But if they weren't on their own property, then yeah they should have sought a permit.
Though I don't usually chime in to such talks. However, I'll be rational here.
Illegal Hawkers are a huge problem in India - but that doesn't mean they are not regulated. Everyday thousands of hawkers and illegal establishment are razed. I agree on the food hygiene of roadside vendors being atrocious, however, that's not the case everywhere and definitely not in shops and/or hotels. Even the average middle-class strays adrift from these roadside vendors.
And the part about "Locals having all sorts of diseases here" - that's a stereotype. No one has any kind of diseases here and the impoverished class are known to flock government hospitals even for a slight pain in the head.
And almost all private establishments adhere to strict hygiene standards and every worker/employee is supposed to follow the same.
I have a lot of friends/acquaintances from countries like United States, Australia, Canada and the United Kingdom come down often and I don't remember anyone falling sick or acquiring any kind of diseases when here. (Except for once when a friend from Austria couldn't digest the spicy Paneer Tikka we had in Goa)
well the law has to apply to everyone.
What if 3 black men were selling lemonade without permits, will you feel differently then?
When does a lemonade stand end and a juice bar begin? Will you be cool if some juice bar got into business, without paying any business rates because they were selling in their front lawn?
I would write a 5 page rant like yesterday, but I don't have time. So let me some it up with this one slightly incomplete sentence.
You sir, are a little bitch.
lol @ voters
1. Residents of Montgomery County vote for County Council members.
2. Montgomery County Council members appoint the Office Of Inspector General.
3. The Office Of Inspector General sends County inspectors to enforce IG decrees regarding vendors' licenses.
Carrie Marriott: "The message to kids is, there's no American dream."
Wrong, knucklehead.
Why do I have a feeling Marriott is going to vote for future County Council members? You can't empower thugs to place other thugs in positions of authority over you, and then complain when they exercise that authority.
1. Residents of Montgomery County vote for County Council members.
2. Montgomery County Council members appoint the Office Of Inspector General.
3. The Office Of Inspector General sends County inspectors to enforce IG decrees regarding vendors' licenses.
Carrie Marriott: "The message to kids is, there's no American dream."
Wrong, knucklehead.
Why do I have a feeling Marriott is going to vote for future County Council members? You can't empower thugs to place other thugs in positions of authority over you, and then complain when they exercise that authority.
I guess the government's going to get their piece whether you want them to or not if you're in the lemonade-in-broad-daylight business.
How is not having a permit vs. having a permit going to ensure safety? You think just because someone dishes out $300 for a permit somehow means they're going to be more safe? It's my decision if I want to buy from them or not; it shouldn't be the local government.
If it's on their own property, they should have that right. And context needs to be seriously taken into consideration here. A group of adults managing a "juice bar" is far different than a couple children selling lemonade on their front lawn in light of a local event.
Some ridiculous ideas you have here man.. I suppose you also find nothing wrong with big government?
As if all the regulated and Licensed food stalls never has any health issues ..
They should be regulating the fast food chains before regulating these poor kids,,
Nobody is freaking forcing lemonade on you. If you don't want the lemonade don't buy it. If you're a pussy and somehow think you're going to get sick off lemonade then keep your money. But people like me, who could use a thirst quenching on a hot summer day, would be more than happy to take this "risk" and support a child entrepreneur. This is what makes countries rich. People doing their own thing. People being entrepreneurs. People providing value. People having FREEDOM.
The people in India do not have diseases because of a free market. It would be even WORSE with government intervention. Free markets solve problems like this. America isn't India. Different people. Different cultures. Different civilizations. Government isn't what makes America better than India in sanitation. It is the people and the culture. We would be more civilized with less government in America. This is basic logic and a factual study of history and economics.
The message is the government better knows how to run your business than you. That's bullshit. We need a license to do everything in this day and age. I can't even take a shit without a license. All licenses do is raise the barrier of entry in a particular market. Again, I don't need the government or a freaking license to tell me what is good for me and what isn't. I can make my own decisions. If I want to support a kid without a lemonade license then good. That is my personal risk and my personal decision. If I get sick it's my problem. The government can't even find their way out of a paper bag. They're just not cut out to know what is better for me than me. Screw the government, screw licenses and screw pussies.
Ok the safety issue wasn't thought out, there's probably some saftey issue with selling home made food and beverages in some bureaucratic refulation somewhere, probably real chance of health is probably next to zero.
But put yourself in other peoples shoes, you buy food from a home made food stall at the funfair, someone gets ecoli and does, the food stall disappears the next day, nobody has any record of them trading (a licensed stall holder will at least have a formal record on file), so now you can't sue or do anything because you can't trace that person down, or worse you cannot prove anything because there are no records on file. I think in this situation you will be pretty pissed that the governement had it's hands ties and was unable to prosecute anyone. And you'd be crying for more government legislation to sort this out, guess what.. that probably happened at some point, and thus everyone requires licenses to trade, whethere it be 1 day for the year or 365 days of a year
but, the law is the law, just because they're kids doesn't mean the law is waived for them. Also you quoted me on the statement
What if 3 black men were selling lemonade without permits, will you feel differently then?
But you didn't answer it, if it was 3 black men selling lemondae on their front laws, nobody would give a damn.
In order for law to be just and fair it has to apply for everyone.
Also, In most countries you cannot turn your home into business property by the way, you have to pay business rates.