I've read a lot on here and trying to implement it finally. I have read in some instances to start with "Weight Loss" on broad match, and I will be searched for on "weight loss benefits" "weight loss tips" "weight loss help" etc and be able to find what is being searched/converting from there. Then, I can dig down and develop long(er) tails based on that information.
Yes, one campaign has "weight loss" as the word. This morning on Advanced match I got 10% CTR with it (position 3-4). Hit budget early so it's done for now. I also have another campaign with "buy weight loss", "weight loss help", "weight loss benefits" etc and the CTR is about 5% but I'm not really seeing any conversions.
I've turned campaign 1 back and forth on Advanced/Standard and the results are usually similar (although get more traffic (untargetted) on Adv).
When you say "use standard match and find better keywords" you mean to only run campaign 2 instead of the broad "weight loss" campaign? It's producing the best results for me so far (maybe that's cuz my c2 kws blow?)
I've done so much reading and haven't really made anything for myself. I keep reading how to do it, but I've only gotten lucky on one campaign. I'm really trying to build something that works and the wheels are spinning, but I'm not going far.