Music Production / Remixing

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Anyone here do any sort of music production, remixing, mash-ups, or anything related? I'm looking to start doing some basic remixing, and I'm looking for some recommendations on cheap keyboards (the piano kind) to interface with Garage Band or any number of other music programs (the real kind). It's just a hobby for me, so I'm not looking to drop a few hundred dollars on a keyboard that I won't use after I find out that I suck at this.

I'm good with a cappella tracks, beats, and such, but the music part is what I just can't get right when trying to use my computer keyboard for what I should be using a real set of keys for.
 


Look for a used KORG triton. And what do you mean by the real kind of music programs, Finale and Sibelius, or Logic and such? Logic Express is good for what you're looking for, and a good price.

Finale and Sibelius are for composition and arranging. KORG Tritons are some of the best keyboards (though not made anymore, replaced by the M3 series). Triton is great for performance and editing/mixing etc.

M-Audio makes some good straight MIDI keyboards though if you don't plan on performing, and they cost less.
 
Most of the sounds these days come as VST's anyway, including all the korgs, motifs, etc. and you just use your keyboard as a midi controller dropping in your riffs through a sequencer - ebay 'midi controller keyboard' and literally any of them will do. You'll need midi cables (usb will do - get the m-audio uno) and as above - a sequencer re logic, cubase, protools, and google 'vst's' there tons and tons.

*Speaking of M-audio you might want to grab a simple 4/4 M-audio sound card. If you're going to be recording anything from instruments to vocals, don't be using your soundblaster pro or whatever.. Going further to pro - getting a good condensor MIC with a pre-amp, a mackie mixer, and some studio monitors (and good earphones) gets you pretty close to pro.

Actually I did quite the breakdown for audio production at home here >>

Post some of your tunes when you can.
 
buy logic it's like $300 get a midi controller and you can get a lot of sounds off ebay and stuff, logic pretty much has what you need.
 
^ SWEET.

BTW guys, I'd like to get everyones opinion on this - I'm in the midst of launching an audio ap myself - a beat machine/sequencer and it's pretty bad ass.

We're about a month from launching it - please let me what you think and if you'd like to be a tester for us.

So far the thing is SICK and i've been mastering all the samples (almost 1000 so far), did the graphics (3500+ psd layers) and have a genius coder doing over 2500 lines of actionscripting so far).

I've been wanting to contain myself before I leak it but fuck it all these audio production and beat making threads lately I cant... Go ahead, rip it up or tell me you love it :)

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TAfGcMNna4"]YouTube - How To Use DubTurbo ShortCuts & Triggers[/ame]


**OP Sorry for the hijack (Just reach out I'll give you a copy free :)) I'll do a proper thread for this too and give out a bunch of them for you guys.
 
Get Ableton Live, if you are considering anything beat related. It's pretty much the standard these days and the stuff it comes with is fantastic.

The Korg Nanoseries stuff might suit you well for controllers, and maybe a cheap m-audio keyboard controller.

Are you on a laptop or a desktop? You'll need a proper audio interface to get your latency down. I've got an M-Audio Delta 44, which does me fine. I think the M-Audio Audiophile is still available. It's pretty cheap and very solid.

Have fun :)
 
trakstar said:
This will be all you need right here

axiom 25 - Google Search

I got one of these on Amazon for $150 Keys for the synths and Drum pads for the drum machines.

That's it!
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Axiom is real legit for a midi controller. My friend has one and its nice, unfortunately I do not have it. VST's is all I know but hopefully one day I'll get a motif. Dub Turbo is awesome even in the alpha/beta stages.
 
Ableton + Reason + Cubase here (go for logic instead if ya use a mac)

I use an old Roland synth as a controller, better action than most dedicated midi controllers I've used.

A few recommended VSTs & VSTis:

VStation (virtual Novation K-station)
Steinberg VST Warp (old but great amp simulator - ideal for turning a synth line into a distorted guitar!)
Korg Legacy collection (older Korg synths)
Antares Filter
Antares Autotune :)
NI Kore player (loads of legal free sounds about for this... good if ya don't wanna use dodgy sw in ya productions + plenty of sounds to buy or whatever)
Izotope Ozone (mastering suite)

Be good to hear other peeps VST recommendations.
 
LazyHippy said:
Ableton + Reason + Cubase here (go for logic instead if ya use a mac)

I use an old Roland synth as a controller, better action than most dedicated midi controllers I've used.

A few recommended VSTs & VSTis:

VStation (virtual Novation K-station)
Steinberg VST Warp (old but great amp simulator - ideal for turning a synth line into a distorted guitar!)
Korg Legacy collection (older Korg synths)
Antares Filter
Antares Autotune :)
NI Kore player (loads of legal free sounds about for this... good if ya don't wanna use dodgy sw in ya productions + plenty of sounds to buy or whatever)
Izotope Ozone (mastering suite)

Be good to hear other peeps VST recommendations.
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Good suggestions! I haven't tried VStation yet.

I really like these ones:

IMPoscar
M-Tron (Mellotrons!)
PSP Mastering Tools
Waves Mastering Tools
Glitch One (fucks shit up)

Sorry I don't know the full names. I'm away from my Studio and I can't be bothered looking.
 
I've got a Macbook, a Windows 7 desktop, and Windows XP desktop, so I'm up for software that can work on either.
 
For sequencers you can't really go wrong, I use Nuendo now. Thanks for the VST recommendations, ill have to check those out. For vsts I use sampletank and ravity s and a few others.
 
ncmedia said:
^ SWEET.

BTW guys, I'd like to get everyones opinion on this - I'm in the midst of launching an audio ap myself - a beat machine/sequencer and it's pretty bad ass.

We're about a month from launching it - please let me what you think and if you'd like to be a tester for us.

So far the thing is SICK and i've been mastering all the samples (almost 1000 so far), did the graphics (3500+ psd layers) and have a genius coder doing over 2500 lines of actionscripting so far).

I've been wanting to contain myself before I leak it but fuck it all these audio production and beat making threads lately I cant... Go ahead, rip it up or tell me you love it :)

YouTube - How To Use DubTurbo ShortCuts & Triggers


**OP Sorry for the hijack (Just reach out I'll give you a copy free :)) I'll do a proper thread for this too and give out a bunch of them for you guys.
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Looking good man. Props! Good luck with your product.
 
@ncmedia is your app only sample based? can you edit samples within the app? will there be support for vst, soundfonts, etc..?

it looks cool. i'd be willing to test it when it's available
 
ncmedia said:
^ SWEET.

BTW guys, I'd like to get everyones opinion on this - I'm in the midst of launching an audio ap myself - a beat machine/sequencer and it's pretty bad ass.

We're about a month from launching it - please let me what you think and if you'd like to be a tester for us.

So far the thing is SICK and i've been mastering all the samples (almost 1000 so far), did the graphics (3500+ psd layers) and have a genius coder doing over 2500 lines of actionscripting so far).

I've been wanting to contain myself before I leak it but fuck it all these audio production and beat making threads lately I cant... Go ahead, rip it up or tell me you love it :)

YouTube - How To Use DubTurbo ShortCuts & Triggers


**OP Sorry for the hijack (Just reach out I'll give you a copy free :)) I'll do a proper thread for this too and give out a bunch of them for you guys.
Click to expand...


dude that's fucking sick, I thought about having some shit like this made.
Nice work man
 
Thanks guys. We're still unlocking potential with it and it's like a daily learning curve with the dev team re what's possible/limited. V1 won't have vst/midi/import/sound fonts yet but that's where it's headed. For now you can manually add new banks/sounds easily (simply record a C note if it's an instrument - it will scale properly once in - or a drum folder with 10 pad samples.wav for a new kit).

Right now we're mastering all the trigger sounds for the keyboard (the one you type on) so everything in the ap triggers nicely. Using keys to play/make beats as pads is a learning curve but it's hot once you get going. Also fucking with the sampler/mic channels (so you can literally just record your voice over your beat once done, or record effects/adlibs/whatever - then edit the recording, effect it... just like normal sampling editors).

I thought it would be easier to build however this thing has both grown a lot and proven to be quite the mofo re debugging and wrapping. Will keep you guys updated once it's close enough to show a proper beta.

N.
 
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