Need Help. Got $2000 to start with CPA.

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Qrisso

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Hi all

Long story short. In the past I was doing affiliate marketing with the help of article marketing, SEOing, link building, etc, but I kinda got fed up with it. So I now want to jump in CPA marketing with the help of PPC.

My budget ain't big, I can spend $2000.

What I am asking is, can someone give me some guidelines, or maybe some good resources to read, so I can get some basic information from (Blogs, paid membership sites, coaching programs?) I am planning on Facebook marketing. I just have zero experience with Paid traffic, that's why I would love to read some information prior trying it.

So far my plan looks like this:

  1. Join some major CPA network (A4D maybe? Do they accept newbs?)
  2. Ask AM for top performing offers and choose one, max two.
  3. Buy and setup a landing page
  4. Create, target and run ads on Facebook
  5. ???????
  6. Profit
Looks simple.

P.S. I can't design, so does anyone know some good sites where I can buy premade landing pages from?

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I'd suggest you improve your forum skills to "I can post visible tits" level. You need to host the images elsewhere. Do this quickly, before the ban hammer descendeth.

Oh, and read Nickycakes' newbie guide, on his blog. That has info about a good landing page supplier.

Any more, post in the newbie forum, not here.

See, wasn't that helpful? I think I've run out of mean for the day. :(
 
Ahh.. crap. Alright, thanks.

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just read htis forum. fuck paid memberships to guru shits and coaching stuff. join thevault too if you can. here's how to win as cpa affiliate: run on a ppc platform, drive traffic to an offer, compare ur stats and profitability, rinse and repeat, buy veyron. GLHF
 
you learn by losing your money bro..

other people coaching you? fuck that shit.

just spend that money on traffic.
 
Yeah, I guess, I'll just have to step out of my comfort zone and get my shit together.

Alright, thanks guys. If anyone has any good Facebook infos/guides for newbs, would be cool if ya could share. Cakes' guide was good. Altho I'm not a complete noob, yet I found my gems there.
 
Cakes guide is enough to get you started. After that the real learning you'll do is testing offers and landing pages. Take a look at what others are doing so you can see what a successful ad/landing page looks like.
 
If you want to learn faster spend the money that hurts,. You know the money you cant afford to loose like your grocery & rent money. So maybe your education budget should be 3,000 to 5,000 After you loose that and say 2 or 3 more thousand you should be good to go.

If you don't loose anything but your play monies you will never really learn to play the game. Now if you want to minimize the pain you should take maybe $500 and run some campaigns. Spread it out over a month or 2. All the while reading everything you can. Test out what you learn. Just know that most of the shit you read stopped working a year ago (which is why your reading it) but you have to start somewhere. Learn the lingo and keep reading and testing stuff out. Stick with one thing and do it till you get good at it. If you hit on something good you can always dump the rest of that money into it.

Now once you have lost your play money and some "left pocket" money this is the most critical point, the point when most people give up. Stick with it and keep reading
 
Qrisso said:
Yeah, I guess, I'll just have to step out of my comfort zone and get my shit together.

Alright, thanks guys. If anyone has any good Facebook infos/guides for newbs, would be cool if ya could share. Cakes' guide was good. Altho I'm not a complete noob, yet I found my gems there.
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Start with a budget of $100 a day find an affiliate offer that is doing well in adwords (you wont find too many these days) and learn to compete with it. Find out everything you can about that campaign, keywords, landing pages, ad copy, the works. Try to better everything that person. Build a better landing page, make your ads more compelling and then launch the camapign. See how good you are against this guy, can you beat his ad postions whilst also making a decent ROI. Keep competing with him and keep trying to find why he is doing much better than you. Come on this forum ask good questions. After you have spent some decent cash and taken the jump, people will respect you when you ask questions because they know you have tried and when you lose and come to us we will pick you up throw you back in armed with more and more information.

Keep repeating procedure until you are pumelling the guy at the top, until you can compete with anyone in that niche on that traffic source. Then once you have mastered this, try and do the same on yahoo and msn. Remember we will catch you when you fall, but if we find you havent at least tried as you come falling through the window of wickedfire we will walk away with our hands behind our backs.
 
Seema said:
Start with a budget of $100 a day find an affiliate offer that is doing well in adwords (you wont find too many these days) and learn to compete with it. Find out everything you can about that campaign, keywords, landing pages, ad copy, the works. Try to better everything that person. Build a better landing page, make your ads more compelling and then launch the camapign. See how good you are against this guy, can you beat his ad postions whilst also making a decent ROI. Keep competing with him and keep trying to find why he is doing much better than you. Come on this forum ask good questions. After you have spent some decent cash and taken the jump, people will respect you when you ask questions because they know you have tried and when you lose and come to us we will pick you up throw you back in armed with more and more information.

Keep repeating procedure until you are pumelling the guy at the top, until you can compete with anyone in that niche on that traffic source. Then once you have mastered this, try and do the same on yahoo and msn. Remember we will catch you when you fall, but if we find you havent at least tried as you come falling through the window of wickedfire we will walk away with our hands behind our backs.
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that's some good advice.
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
I will give you all of my secrets for the girl on the left.
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Amen.


Of course we take newer affiliates. There's no need to pay someone to coach you. Build a network of a few noobs on there to share ideas with. Then go study the 1 traffic source you want to be successful on. See what's running there. Then start investing your money running campaigns into your education.

Keep in mind I didn't say go start running campaigns and make money. I said go invest money to learn stuff. You might make money, you might not to start but if you walk away with more skillz you've won.

Not saying we all don't want to make money of course we do. But you're at a stage where you education is more important then the cash. Go invest that cash into running your campaigns and learning by trial and error.
 
Seema said:
Start with a budget of $100 a day find an affiliate offer that is doing well in adwords (you wont find too many these days) and learn to compete with it. Find out everything you can about that campaign, keywords, landing pages, ad copy, the works. Try to better everything that person. Build a better landing page, make your ads more compelling and then launch the camapign. See how good you are against this guy, can you beat his ad postions whilst also making a decent ROI. Keep competing with him and keep trying to find why he is doing much better than you. Come on this forum ask good questions. After you have spent some decent cash and taken the jump, people will respect you when you ask questions because they know you have tried and when you lose and come to us we will pick you up throw you back in armed with more and more information.

Keep repeating procedure until you are pumelling the guy at the top, until you can compete with anyone in that niche on that traffic source. Then once you have mastered this, try and do the same on yahoo and msn. Remember we will catch you when you fall, but if we find you havent at least tried as you come falling through the window of wickedfire we will walk away with our hands behind our backs.
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That's actually good advice in theory but I think he might have two problems due to his budget. The guy(s) at the top have probably been there awhile, are getting cheaper clicks than he can get, and can afford to lose money for a few days when the bids are jacked up from new competitors. Also, Adwords is not for the faint of heart, or light in the wallet - especially if you're trying to push standard CPA shit.
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
That's actually good advice in theory but I think he might have two problems due to his budget. The guy(s) at the top have probably been there awhile, are getting cheaper clicks than he can get, and can afford to lose money for a few days when the bids are jacked up from new competitors. Also, Adwords is not for the faint of heart, or light in the wallet - especially if you're trying to push standard CPA shit.
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hey bro, how can you be a gunman when you are unarmed bro?

btw, nice tip bro.

pce.
 
Not sure on all the advice here, newbie guides are good. First I hope $2,000 isn't your life savings second, here's an official newbie money management system. The people above are right about spending/losing money to learn, but they've forgotten about how it was first starting out, and believe me I will never forget the first or third time I started up.

Here it is: 5% Rule- Rule of Newbs to never invest more than 5% of your budget on any given campaign. What does that mean, well obviously for 2k that's $50 per campaign. Why do this because you have a way less chance of failing 20 times and going broke, than you do with lets say,4 times(spending $500 a campaign). Join some networks, seem if the AMs can help you, but your really looking for the clicks to stay in the .05-.45 cent range, and you maybe better off in the leadgen(dating, gift cards, education etc..) department. Get yourself to $5,000 before you start with expensive buys or $1+ clicks, that can seriously put a huge dent in $2,000. when you start making money, don't be a dumbass and go by a new $500 watch when you start making money, cause your at the point were you can start losing some money and see what works, like the above posters implied.

Cliffs: Don't go chasing waterfalls stick to the rivers and the lakes your used to.
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
That's actually good advice in theory but I think he might have two problems due to his budget. The guy(s) at the top have probably been there awhile, are getting cheaper clicks than he can get, and can afford to lose money for a few days when the bids are jacked up from new competitors. Also, Adwords is not for the faint of heart, or light in the wallet - especially if you're trying to push standard CPA shit.
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There is no way he is ever gonna beat the guy at the top for a really competitive niche like say auto insurance, but what it will do is give him a cold hard shock to the system of whats required to be sucessful at this game. Also I think 2k will get him a nice bit of data from which he can build, siphon out the losing ad groups and keywords and then get another 2k to go in and improve his campaign.

I agree its not for the faint heart which is why he should really start with this traffic source. Learn how to pay for clicks and then once he has learnt how to write good ads and get good ctr and lower his spend for the same ROI, move in to CPM.
 
Strange... There's actually some good advice in here...

Anyways, I'll contribute my $0.02

Its true that the best way to learn is to spend money, but not all traffic sources and created equally. Some are much harder to make work since they take considerably more time, effort, marketing savvy, and money to test. Social ads, Search PPC, Contextual, Display, and CPV are all quite popular at the moment. With only $2k to spend, I would pick only one type to learn to start.

Pick a traffic source and learn the ins and outs of it, you will likely lose money along the way. Understand why you're losing money: test different ad elements, reach out to your AM's, watch what your competition is doing, etc...

Once you've gotten profitable and are comfortable with the idea of spending money to gather data, carry those principles you've learned over to other traffic sources and offers.

At the end of the day, it all boils down to: Traffic ----> Offer

Good places for landing pages if you're on a budget are lpdesigner.com and getlandersgetpaid.com, I've heard some good things about designcourse.com as well if you're looking for a crash course in web design.

Final advice:

Learn tracking
Don't read too much (Analysis Paralysis)
Don't be afraid to make mistakes

Good luck!

"Play the game for more than you can afford to lose... only then will you learn the game."

Winston Churchill
 
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