No Dancing In Public

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In communist China, you will get arrested for dancing in public, even punched, and body slammed by the tyrant police 'who just follow orders'...
































....did i say China? Ooops I meant America.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWeF6lwg4aY]YouTube - ‪RT's Adam vs the Man host Adam Kokesh arrested‬‏[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWgfHMVsQL0]YouTube - ‪NO DANCING IN PUBLIC! You think this is America?‬‏[/ame]
 


Man, Terry Techno would fucking hate visiting landmarks

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WFsIskJ05I"]YouTube - ‪Car Alarm Raver - Terry Techno‬‏[/ame]
 
In the full vid it's obvious they were warned by cops. Thing is, you can't argue with cops in cases like this since they're only enforcing stupid policies. What they should do is take this through the right channels to get the changes they wanna see. Though this way they got more attention so they got what they wanted I guess.
 
In the full vid it's obvious they were warned by cops. Thing is, you can't argue with cops in cases like this since they're only enforcing stupid policies. What they should do is take this through the right channels to get the changes they wanna see. Though this way they got more attention so they got what they wanted I guess.
No this is the perfect way of showing how absurd the policy is. We should salute the guys who started dancing. Dancing silently does not equal disturbing the peace. If a judge upholds that which I think they already did then your country is going to shit. I really hope people stage another 'silent dance' at the memorial. Seems like the police close the memorial after an incident like this - it would be amazing if people kept going to the memorial everytime it opened after another group got arrested. It could potentially get hundreds of people arrested - I'm sure it would get some huge press but I doubt something like that would happen.
 
No this is the perfect way of showing how absurd the policy is.

I don't think so. What these people did is somewhat the same as if I walked into a Buddhist temple, and started dancing a jig. Then when security politely tells me not to do that several times, I continue to do it. Then I scream bloody murder after getting forcefully removed from the temple.

These guys picked a national monument. If they just wanted to dance in public, they could have picked any street corner, and nobody would have cared in the slightest. Hell, if anything they would have made enough for a free lunch from passer-bys throwing change their way.
 
I mentioned the problem here: the police have no competition. Thus, they have no fear of losing their funding or jobs.

Their funding comes from aggressive appropriation of private property (i.e. taxes). Consumers have no choice in the agencies they hire for security. Regarding a threat to the thugs' jobs, the government's judges are, as Hoppe says, the arbitrators of last resort. Got a problem with the government (police, IRS, DHS, TSA, etc.)? Take it to the judges who are on the government dole.

Good luck with that.

Now, imagine if everything were privately owned, and property rights were defended against every act of appropriation. The "public memorial" wouldn't exist unless a private owner erected it. He could decide who is allowed to visit, and who is not. He could decide what is allowed on his property (much like you do in your home), and what is not. Other private owners could erect their own memorials, and monetize them in any way they choose, or not at all.

As for security, there would be hundreds, and even thousands, of agencies competing for the contracts. Would some personnel, once hired, misbehave? Of course. But their misbehavior would open the door to a number of consequences for the owner (people telling others not to visit, possible judgment against him, etc.).

In other words, the private owners have an incentive to hire the best people for the job. He is unlikely to hire thugs. If he does, few people will visit his memorial.

That's the beauty of pure competition. And it demonstrates the danger of eliminating it from the market. The police have no competitors. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize the outcome will be horrible. In fact, there is evidence of it every single day.
 
You mean like amazing utopias such as Somalia?

Nice try. I know more about Somalia than most people on this board. Suffice to say, no. Not like Somalia. :)

By the way, I have a strict policy against debating things on anonymous boards. Instead, I do drive-by posts; I lay my thoughts out along with a link or two, and move along. To my knowledge, nothing I have ever said on a forum has convinced any member to change his mind. I expect it never will. Hence, I don't debate.
 
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I don't think so. What these people did is somewhat the same as if I walked into a Buddhist temple, and started dancing a jig. Then when security politely tells me not to do that several times, I continue to do it. Then I scream bloody murder after getting forcefully removed from the temple.

These guys picked a national monument. If they just wanted to dance in public, they could have picked any street corner, and nobody would have cared in the slightest. Hell, if anything they would have made enough for a free lunch from passer-bys throwing change their way.

Buddhists aren't going to forcibly remove anyone. Despite that, their temple would be private property. You can kick someone out of your home without a reason and they could do the same. The Jefferson memorial is public land.


"The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive." - Thomas Jefferson
 
I don't think so. What these people did is somewhat the same as if I walked into a Buddhist temple, and started dancing a jig. Then when security politely tells me not to do that several times, I continue to do it. Then I scream bloody murder after getting forcefully removed from the temple.

These guys picked a national monument. If they just wanted to dance in public, they could have picked any street corner, and nobody would have cared in the slightest. Hell, if anything they would have made enough for a free lunch from passer-bys throwing change their way.
This isn't about the monument. It's about the power of the police and state to erode your rights away. By dancing those men were protesting against the abuse of power. I'm not American, but I'm pretty sure this isn't what Jefferson had in mind when those cops arrested the man and woman for hugging. That was a blatant power trip by the police, the couple were not 'disturbing the peace' by any stretch of imagination. Grow a pair and stop being a useful idiot. The police are there to protect you, no one in the video was disturbing the peace apart from the police themselves. Drunk/violent behavior is disturbing the peace - dancing silently is not.

What the police did is a slap in the face to your rights as an individual - the fact that they can arrest you simply for dancing and you being so passive about it says it all about where USA is heading. What the hell happened to small government and the power of the individual. 'The right to free speech, the right to bear arms' - the founding fathers put these in place to protect people from tyranny. Americans need to stop being so passive and assert their authority as individuals with a constitution that protects them from the ridiculous shit that we just saw. If you don't stand up now it'll only get worse.
 
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Seriously? Dancing in a restricted area?
WTF?

Adam Kokesh and I met during the Ron Paul campaign and keep in touch - dude is a Patriot.
 
Mad props to the dude in the white T who was still dancing even after the cop had both his hands held behind his back.
 
I have a strict policy against debating things on anonymous boards. Instead, I do drive-by posts; I lay my thoughts out along with a link or two, and move along. To my knowledge, nothing I have ever said on a forum has convinced any member to change his mind. I expect it never will. Hence, I don't debate.

Well said. I disagree with pretty much everything you post that pertains to economics and I greatly appreciate your drive-bys. And you're absolutely right, debating world issues on a forum is utterly pointless. Hard enough getting people to listen in person these days.
 
This isn't about the monument. It's about the power of the police and state to erode your rights away.

I totally agree the US is turning into a police state, but just think this is a piss poor example. There's a time and place for everything, and everyone I know knows it's bad manners to bring your friends to a place like a national monument to dance a jig. Same as if I'm visiting Auschwitz, I don't expect people to be beat boxing, or if I'm walking through Angkor Wat, I don't expect kids to be running around with their pet dogs screaming at the top of their lungs.

These guys went looking for a fight with "the man", and that's exactly what they got, so I don't understand why they're so dismayed. Besides, if you think that's bad, over here if you post anything nasty regarding the one who noone dares speak about on the internet, you can get thrown in prison for 8 years due to lese majeste laws.