Obamacare starting to look more appealing.

dreamache

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So my wife has gone below part time as an RN and lost healthcare coverage, in order to be with our 5 month old daugther as often as she can - this meant we needed to find private insurance..

I contact a health ins. agent that my parents use and I fill out an elaborate form online for all 3 of us, health history etc..

Get a call from the agent a few days later saying me and my daughter were approved but my wife entirely denied, I'm like wtf, why?

Well, she was diagnosed with something called "Raynauds Phenonom" a few years ago, sounds scary but it's not a big deal, decent portion of the population has it and a ton more have it but it's never diagnosed.. All it is for most people is their fingers/toes get too cold in response to the slightest change of temperature (like getting into the fridge).. It's mild in her case, she just has to be sure to wear gloves / socks if it's really cold.

As he described it, "They denied her because there's a chance in severe cases (albeit very rare) that she could require injections, which are very expensive".

So she's entirely denied coverage, because of a very slight possibility she may some time in the future, require expensive injections. I asked him, why can't they just exclude coverage for those injections in her plan? He said because Raynauds can apparently result in effecting other organs which would be impossible to determine the actual cause"

Obamacare may not be the answer, but what we have now definitely isn't either.
 


So because your wife wanted to work less, we have to pay for her health care?

Wrong. I want to pay for her health insurance, they won't let me. That's the problem. I'd be fine if they excluded anything that could result from raynaud's, we would at least like coverage for shit like physical injuries, occasional prescription meds, etc.
 
Wrong. I want to pay for her health insurance, they won't let me. That's the problem. I'd be fine if they excluded anything that could result from raynaud's, we would at least like coverage for shit like physical injuries, occasional prescription meds, etc.

Private buy in plan? Small business plan for you with dependent coverage?
 
So because your wife wanted to work less, we have to pay for her health care?

Bring on the death panels!!!

Wait, I'm not sure which direction the mob is going with this thread, I'm with Bofu, I'm drunk and just looking to stir some shit. :D
 
Wrong. I want to pay for her health insurance, they won't let me. That's the problem. I'd be fine if they excluded anything that could result from raynaud's, we would at least like coverage for shit like physical injuries, occasional prescription meds, etc.

contact another 10 insurance agencies
 
Better that they deny you now than later after you have to have major surgery
 
As the saying goes Banks only lend money to people who don't need it. And Health Insurance companies only give insurance to healthy people. Its a fucking racket. Even if you have health Insurance just wait until you get sick, see how well you get treated when you put in a claim(they come up with pre-exisiting on conditions and all sorts of BS). The word "health" and "profit" should not go hand in hand. You are relying on a companies bottom line when what benefits you doesn't benefit the company. And if you say otherwise I can guarantee you have never had to deal with someone really sick with health care or without. Very sad thing one of the richest countries that spend money on a ton of B.S. can't take care of all their citizens with a good health care system. Since I have to pay taxes anyway I would rather pay for a health care system then some government bailout of banks.
 
all the fucking health insurance companies should be nationalized, fuck those assholes, and I hope you and your family can find some insurance.
 
There are two major problems with health insurance.

First, there is no such thing as health insurance. Insurance covers unexpected catastrophes. Every modern "insurance" company does it's damn best to deny coverage to ANYONE who has the slightest sign of possibly being a future catastrophe (as illustrated by this thread).

Second, the "risk pools" are too small. To make the least statistical chance of something happening you need the largest dataset. This is why the so-called "Single payer" option is a good thing. If we were all in the same pool - even if covered by different health care companies - everyone's cost would go down.

Even more fun - people with serious chronic conditions (like diabetes) are expensive to cover. However (as demonstrated in MN by research by Health Partners) the CHEAPEST way to care for those people is pro-active care with many routine check-ups. A dozen $100 office visits a year is WAY better than 1 $10,000 ambulance ride.

US health care is a disaster waiting to happen.
 
Better that they deny you now than later after you have to have major surgery

Fuck that noise. I'd rather get the surgery and have a $100K bill and declare bankruptcy (giving the finger to the insurance company the whole time) instead of dieing with no debt.

I'm all for personal responsibility when it comes to stupid shit like rebill terms for berriez or predatory credit card APRs, the type of things that are small potatoes in the grand scheme of things, but if we're talking life saving treatment or surgery, I'll be happy to leave every one of you mother fuckers holding the bag for my bill if it means me or somebody I care about lives or has their quality of life significantly improved.

Health care as an industry is flawed, whether it's overly socialized or overly capitalistic (there's probably a perfect middle ground but we're too stupid and petty to ever find it), the goal is to pay as little as possible while getting as much as you can. Just like affiliate marketing.... just like business in general... what goddamn a coincidence.
 
dont get me started on healthcare and insurance companies, you fucking pricks. unless you've had major chronic health problems or fatalities STFU and GTFO
 
HELL YEA...GIVE ME THE FREE SHIT!! I would love to get free health care and not have to pay the $700 a month that I currently do. Unfortunately, I look at the big picture and not what I WANT.
 
HELL YEA...GIVE ME THE FREE SHIT!! I would love to get free health care and not have to pay the $700 a month that I currently do. Unfortunately, I look at the big picture and not what I WANT.

If the choice is between no coverage from being denied, and "free shit", I will gladly take the free shit when it concerns something as serious as health.

ESPECIALLY when it comes to being denied on the basis of such a minuscule health problem.