On Protecting Kids

JakeStratham

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We coddle our kids. It's ingrained in our culture.

For example, we force them to wear helmets while riding bikes and skateboards.

We prevent them from playing with sharp implements out of fear they'll harm themselves.

We make sure they're always under adult supervision, eliminating the opportunity for them to explore on their own.

In short, we take countless measures to protect them from every possible risk they might confront.

Child psychologists are becoming increasingly vocal that doing these things is not only unnecessary, but actually harmful to children. By protecting them from risks, we prevent them from developing the skills needed to handle life's challenges.

The following article in The Atlantic digs deeply into this issue...

The Overprotected Kid


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The article begins by describing a playground that would horrify most mothers and many fathers. The playground is filled with items that put kids at risk (fire, unstable piles of tires, stacks of pallets, etc.). The idea is that children are best able to learn how to handle such items, along with the risks they introduce, through experience.

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The article is long, but it's a great read. If you're a parent and have 20 minutes to spare, I think you'll like it.*


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A quick note of clarification... though I believe we coddle our kids to the point that they cannot handle life's challenges, I don't subscribe to the following parenting method:


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* If you're interested in reading more on the subject, here is an article that was published in The Atlantic in 2011:

How To Land Your Kid In Therapy
 


While I try to not coddle my 3.5 yr old son, there are some things that are not going to be left out.

Helmet while wearing a bike is one.

Friend of mine got a fractured skull falling off his bike in elementary.

He survived, but yeah... fuck that.

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I'm just trying to hang out with this 5 year old that's doing fucking flips on the landfill mattress

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That fucker is going places.
 
I'm reading the article and it makes me reminiscent of a situation that happened once when I was younger. When I was 5 - 7 I think it was Kindergarten to Second Grade, you'd have to have a parent or adult walk you to and from the schoolbus before and after school which was straight down the road, literally a five minute walk away down a fairly safe neighbourhood with a 30 km/h speed limit.

One day I took the bus home and my mom or dad weren't waiting for me at the mailboxes, and there was no other adult there because the other kids got rides or something, so I had to ride the bus through all the other stops, then back to the school just to call my parents just so they could be there to pick me up, even though there were older kids there that got off that I was friends with that could just as easily 'assist me home'.

Such a crock of shit.
 
While I try to not coddle my 3.5 yr old son, there are some things that are not going to be left out.

Helmet while wearing a bike is one.

Friend of mine got a fractured skull falling off his bike in elementary.

He survived, but yeah... fuck that.

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This (though I'm not quite sure how you wear a bike ;)). I spent far too much time visiting our friend in the head trauma unit at the university hospital in Cadiz, surrounded by kids that will probably never wake up or will be vegetables for the rest of their lives.

Plus it's the law in a lot of places now and insurance companies will fuck you over should you get hurt in an accident while not wearing a helmet.
 
F me... early morning before coffee...

Helmet while riding a bike of course...

meh..

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My parents never made me wear a helmet, knee pads, etc riding my pedal bike as a kid...

It was encouraged to wear the helmet though, so I did sometimes.

When I was young I was allowed take to the unknown streets on my bike.

I crashed a few times nothing serious, always got home after being miles away.

Here I am today.

No one told me to wear armor, or where to ride.

But I bought a grand in motorcycle protection and ride the road with respect.

I have to wonder if all the kids that were coddled are the same ones who are squids today.

Riding with no helmet or shirt...

I've crashed a few times, hell I did this past week.

Dropped it 40 mph and superman'd it on the pavement.

Managed to get home just fine once again.

Sometimes you have to just learn things on your own, to get a sense of what to do as an adult.

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I don't know why people are making their kids wear leashes in public.

Won't let them ride their bikes out of the driveway.

Go venture out in the woods and explore.

Etc.

I can see why social media, the tv, internet, etc is so popular today.

What the fuck else are these kids allowed to do?

...

On a side note, maybe this is why I adventured into running a business.

Rather than taking the forced/common road of a cubicle.
 
I support all of this. Keep the kids on leashes. Teaches them not to act out when they're put in a cubicle. Quiet and complacent.
 
Hmm..

I am absolutely appaled at the reports I get from all places of kids not knowing their way aound their neighborhood, of parents fighting for the right to let their kids roam their neighborhood, of "no one loses" contests, of kids never having been to a shop to buy bread (or whatever) on their own at 7 years of age... fuck I could go on.

I think what you want to do is to try to let the kids do as much "dangerous" stuff as possible, while making sure they don't die.

Try to keep most of the blood inside the prodigy.

so my personal approach is to keep the protection at a minimum, but yeah, as I said, there are lower limits.

So in our household.. cooking with us? sure. Sharp knives? yes! Pointy scissors? yes! Breaking open your skull? Nope

There are so many things you HAVE to be exposed to to learn .. a cut in the finger won't kill your kid, but teach about the danger of knives.

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Participation trophies and ribbons kill my soul when I see them.
 
I think one of the main contributing factors to this is the isolation of modern society as well. Back when I was a kid, we were always outside, building forts, ramps, fires, jumping off the railroad bridge into the river, shooting each other with pellet guns, and loads of other stupid shit.

At the same time though, this was back in a day when you were just naturally good friends with your neighbors, and always knew loads of people around the community, because everyone was always out and about. Due to this, kids were always looked out for at somewhat of a certain minimal level, because there was always someone close by with an eye out, or to give a helping hand if needed, or whatever.

That type of society doesn't really exist anymore. Everyone sticks to themselves now more, which has been quite detrimental as it's helped deteriorate those societal norms. Now if you send you kid out to go around meandering on his / her own, you don't really know what you're sending them into, whereas before it was different. Before, there was a certain level of minimum protection your kid had regardless of where they went, whereas that doesn't really exist anymore.

Does that make any sense at all?

That's why in the photos of the poor countries, you see kids doing that stuff. There's still a sense of community there, so the parents know if something happens while their kid is out and about, there will be someone around to give a helping hand. That doesn't exist as much anymore in Western countries, because everyone sticks to themselves behind a computer, TV, video game, phone, whatever the fuck.
 
So you're saying I should let my three year old nephew play with knives? Why don't I just give him a handgun.
 
I was fascinated by fire, so my parents taught me how to use it. I was fascinated by firearms, so my parents taught me how to respect them. The best way to protect a child is to teach them the ways of the world. It's violent, scary and dangerous. Parents shouldn't hide that from their kids.
 
Every other evening, I'll go into the living room and lay on the floor (old man back). My oldest of four sons, a 6-year old, immediately proclaims "Fight daddy!"

The name of the game is violence, and the first one to cry loses.

TL;DR: Raising my children to rape your wives and daughters. High five.
 
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There is a difference between coddling and basic safety.

My kids (5 & 7) wear helmets while skiing and biking, and life jackets on the boat. I tell them not to run with the very pointy scissors they have.

But they also cook without supervision (7 y/o is a budding chef), ride bikes and scooters around the loop alone (min lot size in the neighborhood is 2 acres so it's like a mile), are provided with hammer, nails, and a woodpile so they can build things, my 7 y/o mows now and then because like an idiot I joked I'd give him $100 to mow the lawn and next morning he woke me up to start the mower for him, shit like that, they garden, climb trees, and starting this summer shoot guns, etc.

Even if I didn't support them doing these things, I'd still want them to do them on my watch so I can stitch them up if they fall, or they know how to do something and it's not surprising when something goes bad. A good example of that is the shooting. I don't have much interest in firearms, but everyone around this area does so I'm going to teach them proper use and respect for them - this is the type of safety kids should get.
 
I watched my dad blowtorch a threaded rod to break it down to a size he needed. When he hammered it and broke off the part he needed the other end fell on the ground and I asked him if I could have it. He says knock yourself out.

I still have a tiny scar on my finger from that. I like to think that I gained a couple IQ points along with the scar tissue.
 
When I was young; 6,7,8 years old I was told not to come back until the street lights were on. So, I would grab a machete or any other tool I could find and I'd spend the majority of my days in the woods, building forts making huge mudslides and other shit that young boys do.

Of course, I have 3 brothers as well. So, you know my mom didnt want all of us in the house all day. Not to mention there was no video games or 500 TV channels to watch.

I wish my kids could experience the same things I did!
 
I don't even think we had bike helmets as a kid. Oh, wait I think some nancey boy tried to come into the woods where we had our bike track with one and he got jumped.

Wh used to jump off train bridges when I was kid. 30 foot high in 3 foot of water (you have to collapse when you land kinda go limp or you break your legs).

We would also run along side trains on that same track and use them to hitch across town.

I had a shutgun when I was ugh.. 5. I hated shooting it because it hurt my shoulder. We preferred to shoot eachother with BB guns for fun.

We just had to be home when the street lights came on. That's it. We would often sneak back out after. I ran around with a group of 20-30 kids (don't see that anymore).

Tree houses, burning things, breaking things, doing shit kids do. If I do have kids they will be raised the same way. Hopefully they can find some non pussy friends to hang out with.
 
I watched my dad blowtorch a threaded rod to break it down to a size he needed. When he hammered it and broke off the part he needed the other end fell on the ground and I asked him if I could have it. He says knock yourself out.

I still have a tiny scar on my finger from that. I like to think that I gained a couple IQ points along with the scar tissue.

Lol, my dad would do stuff like that too.

More funny is when we would get in a physical fight (1 of 4 boys) he would pick us up and throw us out in the yard and lock then door and tell us if we want to fight, do it outside.

This worked really well in the winter when he would ask if we wanted to get thrown out, we would stop real fast.