Please share your advice re: pumper sites

[vikingred]

I'm not really a newbie, but I thought I would post my question here rather than in another section.

I am wanting to do 2 - 3 pumper sites to point at my main site so that I can spare the main site from any more shitty spam links.

I realize that it can be done at least 2 ways--register domains, diff IPs, diff hosting, domain privacy, etc. OR use web2.0s like Blogger and Wordpress.com

I am thinking the easiest is the latter.

What I am wanting advice on is how to structure them and set them up. Since they are going to be on web2.0 properties, they should have good articles with good content so as not to be removed.

1) How many pages should they be?

2) How many links back to my main site per page? What about inner pages on my main site?

3) Should the pumpers be interlinked?

4) Should the links back to my main site be sitewide links?

5) Spam the fuck outta all pages on the pumpers, or what? Use Tiers?

Any other knowledge and experience you can share would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance. :smokin:

 

[CCarter]

If you go the pure web2.0 route, you are building your house on other people's land, so there is always a chance of getting evicted one day. Violate a TOS or something, etc.

Answers:

1. More than 1.

2. Depends.

3. Within the pumper, yes. To other pumpers, no.

4. Depends.

5. Well, that depends…​

Every scenario is different, depending on the competitive environment, and the type of "spam" you are sending to the pumper site. if you are sending blackest of the black backlinks, you'll probably want another level (Tier 2-3), if by spam you mean gray hat blog comments, but lots of them you may need just one tier underneath. It all really depends on your skill level in creating sites that have solid On-page SEO, and good structure.

Your question is no different then asking about SEO-ing a main site. Noobs would ask the same 5 questions about money/main sites and get the same "depends" answer. I'm sure anyone with good solid pumper techniques is not going to want to out their way of getting rankings.

But in theory - If it were ME, I'd treat every pumper site like a regular brand site (but mini), with all the bells and whistles of big brands site - do light gray to dark gray links to THEIR tier 1- 2 backlinks, and blackhat to it's tier 2 - 3. All theory, since I don't do stuff like that, I only follow the Google Guidelines.​

 

[theallspark]

I haven't used any 'pumpers' since 2011, but i'm with CCarter on this... better to build them on domains you actually own. Sure, it's more expensive that way but you have full control our your assets.

To answer your questions:

1) I'd say a minimum of 5 per site... i used to do it with 10-20 and ensured that each pumper had a different set of innerpages

2) I'd do 2 links per page. 1 x homepage and 1 x innerpage

3) I never did... but looking back, i don't see any reason why we shouldn't! Using pumpers is a short-term strategy... your money site and all pumpers will all drop/get penalised eventually so if interlinking them helps to rank your money site quicker then why not do it?

4) Depends... they provide very little SEO value but maybe consider adding a few 'branded' sitewides for authority??

5) Mix it up. Just "spam the fuck outta' some of them and with others go with...

I'd treat every pumper site like a regular brand site (but mini), with all the bells and whistles of big brands site - do light gray to dark gray links to THEIR tier 1- 2 backlinks, and blackhat to it's tier 2 - 3.
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The advantage of doing it how CCarter has suggested, is that once your main site drops, and it will, you MAY still be able to switch the links to a new site as these pumpers MAY still have some SEO value.

 

[vikingred]

Excellent. Thank you both.