PPVspy.com Needs Beta Testers

Albus Finch

Albus Finch

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Feb 6, 2008
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Hey all,

PPVspy.com is ready to take your feedback, criticism and suggestions for improvement.

Currently the service is monitoring TV pop ups on the 5000 most visited websites in the US (according to Quantcast).

The current focus is on increasing the volume of pop ups being collected. The service is also currently only collecting pop ups from one network so adding other networks is a logical progression.

If you are interested in taking part, please just create an account here. It is of course completely free during the Beta period.

Open to everyone except Machinecontrol :D
 
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Haha no worries I won't mess with it. Not really interested in PPV much in any case.
I'm sure you'll do very well with this service, there's a lot of demand for something like this.
 
it would be cool if you can upload your own url's.... but not have them show up for everybody....

what do you think of that?
 
Im sure once TV gets a whiff of this, you'll be shut down when they find the IPs and well as served with a c&d.

Considering your increasing people's ad spend by a margin a lot higher then someone who is just doing it on their own, Im sure TV will be happy to see this and deal with you accordingly.
 
I don't know what TV would think about this so these are just my thoughts.

My tool would be generating less than $2/day of views across their entire network.

Plenty of guys are doing this on their own already. One person doing it and sharing the results with many will actually reduce the number of people doing this themselves. I don't think the whole 'fake views' thing is an issue at all.

The other factor is that they may see that this tool will help more people run profitable campaigns and that is good for their business.
 
The problem you'll face is that advertisers will complain to tv so tv will have to act in order to keep them happy.
 
Considering that the TV client/server protocol is pretty well implemented, and the main control process runs separate to the browser integration, I highly doubt you have an effective method of spying on TV ads. Their clients are about the most advanced of any of the PPV networks I looked into.
 
actually I have been able to get spying to work with TV on 2 diff methods. Not easy and tedious process that is automated, but can be done for sure and is effective with bulk spying on ads.

Im thinking this guy is using one of the methods.
 
eliquid said:
actually I have been able to get spying to work with TV on 2 diff methods. Not easy and tedious process that is automated, but can be done for sure and is effective with bulk spying on ads.

Im thinking this guy is using one of the methods.
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So you can reset the control process pretty easily, then start it back up, tinker a bit, and it'll 'reset' the client and show you more ads. However from memory that process takes at least 30 seconds. You could then spoof the SendMessage IPC and trick the control process into thinking you are a legit client. However at 30 seconds per that is only 2,880 requests per day. What you really want it 5-10 requests per site, the whole top 100K alexa sites, and you want this done 4 times a day to catch day parting.

Translation, you need to reverse the protocol between control process and server to get the most bang for your buck. If you do this you'll start being able to read off all the competitors for a target URL at the same time, and have a nice little chunk of data to read off like this:

a:5:{s:11:"creative_id";s:7:"1579478";s:5:"price";s:5:"0.035";s:7:"keyword";s:10:"kaplan.com";s:10:"keyword_id";s:5:"21837";s:8:"dest_url";s:142:"http://www.degrees.info/forms/form.jsp?PI=trafficvance_urlron_ddi_text";}
 
This is very interesting, I am signing up now.

Great, in now and you even have screenshots for each ad and the full details on the url that triggered the pop.
Beautiful. Nice and clean system you got setup there. This helps me a lot to have an edge on something I am currently hitting hard.
 
Oh great, now we can get our all our campaigns stolen and drive up bid prices!

I can't stand morons who support this product, it really shows who makes money with PPV, and who doesn't.

If you were smart, you would keep this to yourself, dipshit. Here's to hoping you get a C&D from Vogel because there's going to be a lot of pissed off big-spenders.
 
evasive said:
Oh great, now we can get our all our campaigns stolen and drive up bid prices!

I can't stand morons who support this product, it really shows who makes money with PPV, and who doesn't.

If you were smart, you would keep this to yourself, dipshit. Here's to hoping you get a C&D from Vogel because there's going to be a lot of pissed off big-spenders.
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Insomniac said:
So you can reset the control process pretty easily, then start it back up, tinker a bit, and it'll 'reset' the client and show you more ads. However from memory that process takes at least 30 seconds. You could then spoof the SendMessage IPC and trick the control process into thinking you are a legit client. However at 30 seconds per that is only 2,880 requests per day. What you really want it 5-10 requests per site, the whole top 100K alexa sites, and you want this done 4 times a day to catch day parting.

Translation, you need to reverse the protocol between control process and server to get the most bang for your buck. If you do this you'll start being able to read off all the competitors for a target URL at the same time, and have a nice little chunk of data to read off like this:

a:5:{s:11:"creative_id";s:7:"1579478";s:5:"price";s:5:"0.035";s:7:"keyword";s:10:"kaplan.com";s:10:"keyword_id";s:5:"21837";s:8:"dest_url";s:142:"http://www.degrees.info/forms/form.jsp?PI=trafficvance_urlron_ddi_text";}
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Thats with the assumption that your doing 1 reset per box, manual or automated ( it does take about 30 seconds though either way ). You can however do more then 1 reset per box at a time when running multiple instances of it per box ( yes it can be done ).

Now combine this with the fact you might be running multiple boxes with multiple installs...
 
eliquid said:
Thats with the assumption that your doing 1 reset per box, manual or automated ( it does take about 30 seconds though either way ). You can however do more then 1 reset per box at a time when running multiple instances of it per box ( yes it can be done ).

Now combine this with the fact you might be running multiple boxes with multiple installs...
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Sure you could have a bunch of headless vbox's running and do it that way, however, if your experience is anything like mine has been with a certain other provider, you'll start getting your IP's banned quite rapidly if you intend on monitoring the aforementioned quantity of URL's. Naturally there is a way around that too, but get too aggressive and you'll run into a bunch more protocol updates.

Or perhaps TV isn't as proactive at monitoring server logs as their competition.
 
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