Quotes From Dread Pirate Roberts Of The Silk Road...

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I've never known much about this guy. He's very inspirational IMO.

One quote I enjoyed...

“Hey gang,

I read more than I post in the forum, and my posts are rarely of a personal nature. For some reason the mood struck me just now to put the revolution down for a minute and just express a few things. There is a curtain of anonymity and secrecy that covers everything that goes on behind the scenes here. It is often fast paced and stressful behind this curtain and I rarely lift my head long enough to take in just how amazing all of this is. But when I do I am filled with inspiration and hope for the future. Here’s a little story about what inspires me:

For years I was frustrated and defeated by what seemed to be insurmountable barriers between the world today and the world I wanted. I searched long and hard for the truth about what is right and wrong and good for humanity. I argued with, learned from, and read the works of brilliant people in search of the truth. It’s a damn hard thing to do too with all of the misinformation and distractions in the sea of opinion we live in. But eventually I found something I could agree with whole heartedly. Something that made sense, was simple, elegant and consistent in all cases. I’m talking about the Austrian Economic theory, voluntaryism, anarcho-capitalism, agorism etc. espoused by the likes of Mises and Rothbard before their deaths, and Salerno and Rockwell today.

From their works, I understood the mechanics of liberty, and the effects of tyranny. But such vision was a curse. Everywhere I looked I saw the State, and the horrible withering effects it had on the human spirit. It was horribly depressing. Like waking from a restless dream to find yourself in a cage with no way out. But I also saw free spirits trying to break free of their chains, doing everything they could to serve their fellow man and provide for themselves and their loved ones. I saw the magical and powerful wealth creating effect of the market, the way it fostered cooperation, civility and tolerance. How it made trading partners out of strangers or even enemies. How it coordinates the actions of every person on the planet in ways too complex for any one mind to fathom to produce an overflowing abundance of wealth, where nothing is wasted and where power and responsibility are directed to those most deserving and able. I saw a better way, but knew of no way to get there.

I read everything I could to deepen my understanding of economics and liberty, but it was all intellectual, there was no call to action except to tell the people around me what I had learned and hopefully get them to see the light. That was until I read “Alongside night” and the works of Samuel Edward Konkin III. At last the missing puzzle piece! All of the sudden it was so clear: every action you take outside the scope of government control strengthens the market and weakens the state. I saw how the state lives parasitically off the productive people of the world, and how quickly it would crumble if it didn’t have it’s tax revenues. No soldiers if you can’t pay them. No drug war without billions of dollars being siphoned off the very people you are oppressing.

For the first time I saw the drug cartels and the dealers, and every person in the whole damn supply chain in a different light. Some, especially the cartels, are basically a defacto violent power hungry state, and surely would love nothing more than to take control of a national government, but you average joe pot dealer, who wouldn’t hurt a fly, that guy became my hero. By making his living outside the purview of the state, he was depriving it of his precious life force, the product of his efforts. He was free. People like him, little by little, weakened the state and strengthened the market.

It wasn’t long, maybe a year or two after this realization that the pieces started coming together for the Silk Road, and what a ride it has been. No longer do I feel ANY frustration. In fact I am at peace in the knowledge that every day I have more I can do to breath life into a truly revolutionary and free market than I have hours in the day. I walk tall, proud and free, knowing that the actions I take eat away at the infrastructure that keeps oppression alive.

We are like a little seed in a big jungle that has just broken the surface of the forest floor. It’s a big scary jungle with lots of dangerous creatures, each honed by evolution to survive in the hostile environment known as human society. All manner of corporation, government agency, small family businesses, anything that can gain a foothold and survive. But the environment is rapidly changing and the jungle has never seen a species quite like the Silk Road. You can see it, but you can’t touch it. It is elusive, yet powerful, and we are evolving at a rapid clip, experimenting, trying to find sturdy ground we can put roots down in.

Will we and others like us someday grow to be tall hardwoods? Will we reshape the landscape of society as we know it? What if one day we had enough power to maintain a physical presence on the globe, where we shunned the parasites and upheld the rule of law, where the right to privacy and property was unquestioned and enshrined in the very structure of society. Where police are our servants and protectors beholden to their customers, the people. Where pace our leaders earn their power and responsibility in the harsh and unforgiving furnace of the free market and not from behind a gun, where the opportunities to create and enjoy wealth are as boundless as one’s imagination.

Some day, we could be a shining beacon of hope for the oppressed people of the world just as so many oppressed and violated souls have found refuge here already. Will it happen overnight? No. Will it happen in a lifetime? I don’t know. Is it worth fighting for until my last breath. Of course. Once you’ve seen what’s possible, how can you do otherwise? How can you plug yourself into the tax eating, life sucking, violent, sadistic, war mongering, oppressive machine ever again? How can you kneel when you’ve felt the power of your own legs? Felt them stretch and flex as you learn to walk and think as a free person? I would rather live my life in rags now than in golden chains. And now we can have both! Now it is profitable to throw off one’s chains, with amazing crypto technology reducing the risk of doing so dramatically. How many niches have yet to be filled in the world of anonymous online markets? The opportunity to prosper and take part in a revolution of epic proportions is at our fingertips!

I have no one to share my thoughts with in physical space. Security does not permit it, so thanks for listening. I hope my words can be an inspiration just as I am given so much by everyone here.

Dread Pirate Roberts”

A lot of other great stuff at Forbes.

I'm pleasantly surprised to learn that his mission goes far beyond a free market for prohibited drugs.
 
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While what he is saying might be the truth, I doubt it.

It just sounds like he's backwards rationalising why he created a highly questionable business ethics wise, whether it's ok or not in free market economics terms.

What he's created DOES destroy lives, because drugs do that. Deep down it must be hard to live with that. Justifying it with this austrian economics bullshit is probably all that keeps him sane.
 
While what he is saying might be the truth, I doubt it.

It just sounds like he's backwards rationalising why he created a highly questionable business ethics wise, whether it's ok or not in free market economics terms.
He's not justifying it with austrian economics, he's justifying with Agorism(which I personally am a fan of) and the related field of counter-economics. It's not the most popular of systems, but it's decently well established. Counter-economics more or less the use of the black market as an anti-state measure. Think of it like the an-cap/minarchist version of Revolution Theory.

What he's created DOES destroy lives, because drugs do that. Deep down it must be hard to live with that. Justifying it with this austrian economics bullshit is probably all that keeps him sane
Individuals destroy their own lives. Drugs are inanimate objects, incapable of independent action.
 
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What he's created DOES destroy lives, because drugs do that.

Let me guess, guns kill people too right?

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"Once you’ve seen what’s possible, how can you do otherwise? How can you plug yourself into the tax eating, life sucking, violent, sadistic, war mongering, oppressive machine ever again? How can you kneel when you’ve felt the power of your own legs? Felt them stretch and flex as you learn to walk and think as a free person?"

^^ This, a thousand times. When you first break formation there is panic, doubt but if you keep walking and don't look back that rush of freedom will hit you quick. Like walking out of fog, everything snaps into focus... you look down and the reins are finally in your hands. You never go back. Bury me in the wilderness because I'm not going back.

Awesome share
 
While what he is saying might be the truth, I doubt it.

It just sounds like he's backwards rationalising why he created a highly questionable business ethics wise, whether it's ok or not in free market economics terms.

What he's created DOES destroy lives, because drugs do that. Deep down it must be hard to live with that. Justifying it with this austrian economics bullshit is probably all that keeps him sane.

I'm so happy people like you exist. Having what I should and shouldn't do be dictated to me is soooo right. You are awesome. Plus, what people like you advocate for; prohibition, has worked sooo well. I mean, in the early 20th century it worked perfectly. And the war on drugs has also made the world a better place.

Selling tobacco, alcohol, cell phones, fast food, Ritalin to kids and sugar is the right thing to do. Marijuana; that is the devils weed! One day we will all be as evolved as you and see the light; praise JESUS!
 
Oh my. This thread is going to be fun.

What he's created DOES destroy lives, because drugs do that.

Drugs don't destroy lives. Choices destroy lives. You can choose to be a responsible drug user or you can choose to let it get the better of you. He hasn't created anything that doesn't already exist. The SR is just improving on an already existing market by providing anonymity and safety.

Dread Pirate Roberts said:
I walk tall, proud and free, knowing that the actions I take eat away at the infrastructure that keeps oppression alive.

A man after my own heart.
 
Can we round up enough people to fight the other side of this?

On the pot smokin-est, gun totin-est drunk gaywebmaster anti-establishment forum?

We'd have to import the opposition from other forums. Could be fun.

You mean the I-have-grandkids, can-barely-use-email, "special offer" webmaster forum?
 
DP? Would be genocide (and also geriacide :D ) but where to find nay sayers with some stiff left in their upper lips? (**unsaid**)

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Actually, all animals when put in an overcrowded place kill each other. 7 Billion; soon 8, then 9, 10, 11... Why can't we all just get along (so long as my kids don't have to go hungry when there is only food for 2 out of 3)
 
Hey I'm a trigger happy asshole... those in my cave are going to eat. Got me some land, a water supply and enough firepower to blow any trespassing lazy grasshoppers into kingdom come.
 
There was a little stretch of time where I could really relate to this part...

From their works, I understood the mechanics of liberty, and the effects of tyranny. But such vision was a curse. Everywhere I looked I saw the State, and the horrible withering effects it had on the human spirit. It was horribly depressing. Like waking from a restless dream to find yourself in a cage with no way out. But I also saw free spirits trying to break free of their chains, doing everything they could to serve their fellow man and provide for themselves and their loved ones. I saw the magical and powerful wealth creating effect of the market, the way it fostered cooperation, civility and tolerance. How it made trading partners out of strangers or even enemies. How it coordinates the actions of every person on the planet in ways too complex for any one mind to fathom to produce an overflowing abundance of wealth, where nothing is wasted and where power and responsibility are directed to those most deserving and able. I saw a better way, but knew of no way to get there.

But I've figured out that one of the most satisfying ways to give the State a giant middle-finger is to live well, enjoy life and when given the opportunity expose them for the illegitimate murdering parasites that they are.

I also like his thoughts on police:

State police scare the hell out of me. Who would you trust more, someone who you paid to protect you and whose livelihood depends on your continuing to pay them, or someone who steals from you (taxes), buys guns with the money (FBI, DEA, ATF, Military, local and state police, etc.), and then forces you to do things against your will when you are not hurting anyone else?

I enjoyed the read, I'm going to check out his forums when I find the time. I always assumed Silk Road existed because drugs=money!, I never knew that he's viewing this as a much bigger and more important picture.

What he's created DOES destroy lives, because drugs do that. Deep down it must be hard to live with that. Justifying it with this austrian economics bullshit is probably all that keeps him sane.

I'd say the Government monopoly on drug sales kills far more people (if you want to blame drugs, not individual decisions).


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Note, I never said he shouldn't be doing what he should or that some government regulation should regulate it. I never supported government intervention. I simply commented on the ethics side from my perspective. I don't want to control anything about it.

I found the psychological angle of that piece interesting. We all know drugs do and will exist, and so do guns, and they kill people, (and yes I agree choices kill people).

But even so, the fact that you've enabled people to make choice is not something that my personal ethics would be ok with in the long run. And from what he wrote, the tone of it, my feeling is he is backwards rationalising.

Please don't twist my words into me being pro regulation and government, I never said that.
 
But even so, the fact that you've enabled people to make choice is not something that my personal ethics would be ok with in the long run.

I can choose to go outside and lick a power line if I want to. He hasn't enabled any choices. Choices are an individual decision. My personal ethics aren't okay with me assuming I have any say over other people's choices as long as they're not hurting anyone else.

cracp0t; said:

Come on dude. Not everyone works out of their Mom's basement. I don't want to see that shit. I don't want to explain to people in my office why they're seeing that shit either. There's a NSFW icon for a reason.
 
the fact that you've enabled people to make choice is not something that my personal ethics would be ok with in the long run.

Again "protecting" someone from themselves is the rationalization that many a tyrannical government has used to strip their subject's rights away to nothing. Let my family try and do that if they must but strangers...?? A person bent on self destruction will find a way. Perhaps a certain online dealer sells very clean drugs discreetly, one could argue that his clientele is better off, safer because it's better quality and less of a risk that he//she will get robbed/gunned down trying to make a purchase in person.

@crack Do you guys go to some disgusting troll training camp for the morbidly retarded or is a coincidence that there are so many sick fucktards in one place? Was having breakfast, now I'll throw it in the yard in case you're hungry.