Real origin of races? (not for the easily offended, no hate thread)

rusvik

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Neanderthal reconstructions:

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Spread of Homo Neanderthal:

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Homo Erectus reconstructions:

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Spread of Homo Erectus:

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This is NOT a hate thread seriously, I am genuinly interested in this theory and there are few places where it is possible to get input from smart people that are not white supremacists.
 
I've read some of the science behind a number of these theories, and generally they don't hold water against DNA migration paths.
 
Early Neanderthals lived in the Last glacial period for a span of about 100,000 years. Because of the damaging effects the glacial period had on the Neanderthal sites, not much is known about the early species. Countries where their remains are known include most of Europe south of the line of glaciation, roughly along the 50th parallel north, including most of Western Europe, including the south coast of Great Britain,[43] Central Europe and the Balkans,[44] some sites in Ukraine and in western Russia and east of Europe in Siberia to the Altai Mountains and south through the Levant to Indus River. It is estimated that the total Neanderthal population across this habitat range numbered at around 70,000 at its peak.[45]
Neanderthal fossils have not been found to date in Africa,

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San people of Africa, decendants of original sapiens tribe:

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[x] Looks black
[x] Looks south-east asian
[ ] Looks caucasian
[ ] Looks north east asian

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The different races obviously came from other planets and bred with the indigenous earth beings.

In all seriousness the alternate theory holds that the human races are all various mixtures of primate and alien (presumably the "tall whites") dna.
 
The different races obviously came from other planets and bred with the indigenous earth beings.

No, but some scientists think that myths of Nephilim in the Bible and the Greek hyperborea may be a shared recollection of the Neanderthals:

Northern Europeans (Scandinavians), when confronted with the classical Greco-Roman culture of the Mediterranean, identified themselves with the Hyperboreans, neglecting the traditional aspect of a perpetually sunny land beyond the north. This idea was especially strong during the 17th century in Sweden, where the later representatives of the ideology of Gothicism declared the Scandinavian peninsula both the lost Atlantis and the Hyperborean land. The north of the Scandinavian peninsula is crossed by the Arctic Circle, north of which there are sunless days during the winter and sunlit nights during the summer. Western European culture equally self-identified as Hyperborean; thus Washington Irving, in elaborating on Astoria in the Pacific Northwest, was of the opinion that
 
Walks like a human, talks like a human, cognates like a human...

... probably not a human. </strong logic>


Could it be that you are trying to validate your belief rather than letting truth guide you? Do I need to envoke the name of he-who's-name-shall-not-be-spoken-hitler into the equation?
 
In all seriousness the alternate theory holds that the human races are all various mixtures of primate and alien (presumably the "tall whites") dna.

Please don't bring the alien nonsense into this serious discussion.
 
Walks like a human, talks like a human, cognates like a human...

... probably not a human. </strong logic>


Could it be that you are trying to validate your belief rather than letting truth guide you? Do I need to envoke the name of he-who's-name-shall-not-be-spoken-hitler into the equation?

As you probably know, the modern all-one-race theory has less than 50 years of acceptance. Before that, ALL scientists, in Europe, America, Asia worked along lines that were later only attributed to Hitler. Just because Hitler twisted this research to his own nefarious means doesn't mean that nuclear physics is evil because Americans nuked Japan.
 
The ugly duckling yes, which grew up to be a swan.

Nice metaphor for the neanderthal.
 
Are you reading what you are linking to? You seem to be under the impression that non-Africans have a large percent of Neanderthal genes, but your sources say they only have a tiny bit more than the Africans.


"Studies indicate modern Europeans share between 1 and 4 per cent of their genes with Neanderthals..

When the Neanderthal genome was sequenced in 2010 it revealed that people outside Africa share slightly more genetic variants with Neanderthals than Africans do.
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"Can we trace any human traits back to Neanderthals?

Probably not. Some researchers had hypothesised that some human genes, including one involved in brain development, originated from interbreeding with Neanderthals, but Pääbo's team found no evidence for this. In fact, no Neanderthal DNA sequences are consistently found in humans. "Each person has a different bit of Neanderthal in them," says Reich.
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The Biology of Race

"Climate has a direct effect on the pigmentation of races. In areas where peoples were exposed to more direct sunlight, skin pigmentation becomes increasingly darker. As stated earlier, the skin develops darker pigmentation to effectively protect itself from the sun. In areas where less sunlight is experienced, the skin does not develop this quality genotypicaly, but embodies the ability to adapt rapidly when exposed to the sun (Dunn 315).

Skin pigmentation is determined by the amount of melanin present in the skin. The more the melanin the darker the skin. All races of the human species have this characteristic..

In subtropical areas, where tree cover is scarce, such as the African Savannah, the people living there develop extremely dark pigmentation. In southern Asia, the sun exposure was consistent but it was not as strong and tree cover was present which caused the people’s skin to darken to a lesser degree. In European areas, the cloudy cover enabled the people to survive without this quality. As you move further north into the Arctic region, the sun becomes stronger and the glare off the snow mix to create a people more similar to the Asian people
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