SCOTUS opens the flood gates for corporations

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As if you peons had to be told:

Corporations/labor unions/billionaire activists > you

Campaign-Finance Ruling Opens Door to More Political Groups - WSJ.com

WASHINGTON—Outside political organizations will play a larger role in the 2010 midterm congressional elections after a decision by the U.S. Supreme Court Thursday to strike down elements of the McCain-Feingold campaign-finance law.

"There will be a lot more groups advocating for and against candidates," said Cleta Mitchell, a lawyer with Foley & Lardner who advices outside political organizations. "It rips the duct tape off the mouths of the American people."

The Supreme Court decision stripped away rules that limited the ability of corporations, unions and other organizations to fund and organize their own political campaigns for or against candidates. The court also struck down a part of the McCain-Feingold campaign-finance law that prevented any independent political group from running advertisements with 30 days of a primary election or 60 days before a general election.

Together, the decisions make it easier for corporations, labor unions and other entities to mount political campaigns for and against candidates for Congress and the White House.

The Supreme Court decision is the latest in a string of judicial rulings that have chipped away at federal limits on the political activity of outside groups in elections. Last year, a federal court overturned rules imposed by the Federal Election Commission that made it more difficult for outside political groups to raise money for political advertisements.

"Taken together, the recent federal court decisions demonstrate that the government cannot regulate individuals, corporations and other entities that wish to speak out about candidates in the upcoming midterm elections," said William McGinley, a campaign-finance lawyer with Patton Boggs LLP.

At issue are limits on how companies, unions and others can get influence elections. The 2002 McCain-Feingold campaign-finance law barred corporations, labor unions and individuals from making unlimited political donations to the Republican National Committee, Democratic National Committee and other political parties.

The law led to an increase in the number and power of outside political groups beginning during the 2004 presidential election.

Reaction to the court's decision split largely along ideological lines Thursday. Groups aligned with unions and liberal causes worried that the decision would open up a flood of corporate money to conservative candidates. Groups aligned with conservative causes and business interests applauded the ruling as restoring free-speech rights. Independent groups across the political spectrum will use the ruling to drum up more contributions for their election efforts.

Sen. Charles Schumer, (D., N.Y.), said in a statement he will introduce legislation to "minimize the impacts" of the court's decision, which he called "worse than we had feared."

Anna Burger, a senior political official with the Service Employees International Union, said the decision "lifted the floodgates and started dismantling century-old restrictions on corporate electoral activity in the name of the 'free speech rights' of corporations."

Steve DeMaura, the head of the conservative-leaning Americans for Job Security, called the decision an "unequivocal victory" for those "who believe in free speech and the rights of organizations such as ours to promote our point of view."
 
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Corporations.

MoveOn is a corporation in disguise. It's sick what they've gotten away with. So if another corporation wants to money-up and fire away at entities like MoveOn, I say so be it.
 
For those "special" members that are against this, read up on the actually case. Read why the attorneys for the government dropped the ball.

The bill was essentially "burning the books" of a small "for profit" company. While the criminal mega non for profits can do whatever the fuck they want (moveon.org)

Yes, this levels the playing field for everyone not just the Soros left.
 
You guys are all idiots. The corporations and MoveOn.org should all be prohibited from campaign contributions. There is too much money in politics and that causes corruption and that's why we end up fucked every election. There should be caps placed on campaign spending if you really want to level the playing field.
 
Political corruption for money is as old as government itself.

If you want to remove corruption, remove the power which attracts it. You don't fight a cold by blowing your nose or stop drug dealing by arresting junkies.

A less powerful government is one which has less power to sell.

There are two approaches to this. Scale down the size and scope of government power in the economy, or create powerful competing governments (empower individual states) so that the power is decentralized.
 
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SCOTUS ruling is a great victory for freedom of speech.

Wait till these idiot politicians decide it is time to regulate Internet marketing even more, you'll be happy the industry can fight back.
 
Increasing State authority over Federal might be the way to go, but I'm really not politically savvy enough to know what the consequences of that would be with regards to the things that matter, like educational standards, health and safety standards, etc.

Will we end up with a dichotomy of cheaper (lower taxes), less educated/safe states vs. expensive (taxing) states with higher standards? Or will it be a chaos of varying standards in all areas that change all the time?
 
If you want to remove corruption, remove the power which attracts it. You don't fight a cold by blowing your nose or stop drug dealing by arresting junkies.

You stop drug dealing by legalizing drugs (see alcohol prohibition) which removes the profit motive, and with it the corruption. If the money isn't removed from politics, the corruption will always be there. This just allows those with the most money, to spend the most. How the fuck is that a victory for anyone other than those that already have the most money and power?
 
You stop drug dealing by legalizing drugs (see alcohol prohibition) which removes the profit motive, and with it the corruption. If the money isn't removed from politics, the corruption will always be there. This just allows those with the most money, to spend the most. How the fuck is that a victory for anyone other than those that already have the most money and power?

Power will always equal money, that's the problem. There are unlimited ways to make money when you're in a position of authority and power. Even if money was removed from the equation, some people abuse power out of boredom or for the rush (e.g. cops raping suspects with broomsticks.)
 
Power will always equal money, that's the problem. There are unlimited ways to make money when you're in a position of authority and power. Even if money was removed from the equation, some people abuse power out of boredom or for the rush (e.g. cops raping suspects with broomsticks.)

No shit. So that means we sanction it by removing all caps on spending? That's like saying people are always gonna kill people so we might as well legalize it.
 
Right wingers are big on corporations having freedom to do whatever the heck they want. I'm sure some members here would love to see labor laws return to those of the 19th century. The repubs do an awesome snowjob making 'average folks' think that corporate interests are the same as their own interests.

No contribution limits means open season for corporations to buy politicians. Not that that already isn't going on...