SpyJet.net
- Thread starter DarkN1ght
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Cpaempire/media breakaway/affiliate.com or whatever owns it. I think they have an internal fb team that all they do is submit ads all day.
Yeah it's CPAE. Shouldn't be to hard to block them from your LPs.
Also, Nicky before you cry bitch that they're my competition or something - they're not.
I dont think a request by me myself would do it but I know theres a lot of people on here spending a lot of money with Facebook. Something should really be done about this, networks running internally against their own affiliates is a problem in its own but they start jacking your shit thats just fucking ridiculous.
At the very least we need a thread here to post IP blocks and urls of tools like this to block with .htaccess
Looks like they wised up to it. It now just says "Copyright © 2010".
I don't fully get what they do.
Ok, so they create FB campaigns for their own offers or what? But then why would you see a lot of traffic coming from them to your LPs? To check them out and copy? But then wouldn't one visit be enough? Or what do you mean by "a lot of refferals", DarkN1ght?
Ill clear this up.
First off by a lot I meant between 3-4 visits PER AD, and not always right after. Sometimes I would get a click from them and then an hour later get 3 in a row or whatever. Just random traffic to the ads but not a shit load. They only need to see it once. Also interesting is that when they got to offers with landing pages, they were following through to the offer lps. Not sure what's automated but either way they are doing some pretty invasive snooping for a network.
Now, theres no real way to say they are the ones jacking campaigns but why else would they need a tool like that? I have seen similar ads and offers go up after the SpyJet traffic (now blocked) but again theres no way to tie them together yet.
Its a known fact that networks are getting fucking shady with the internal ad running. IMO independent affiliates have maybe 5-10 years left until the networks themselves take over... Hiring affiliates to work internally etc. And there wont be much you can do about it, they have a lot of traffic data, and the top tier of commissions. Running against them would either mean much smaller profits, or breaking even.
More to come.
i've heard/read that before; where people think its going to be run by companies, or the next software industry type deal where it starts off as individuals making bank then huge companies end up running the industry...but i dont see how with AM you can expect to have people work for the company running campaigns (in mass), but in turn not just going home and doing the exact same shit. I just dont see how they can get a strangle hold on the industry other than just forcing bids ups too high for ppl but ..idunoooo
Why wouldn't you work for the networks? They could close off pubs to internal only and pay them much higher commissions for what they generate, and not have to spend time and money paying their people to run internal. A much better business model IMO. Thats why it worked with the software industry.
Do you think you would be able to compete against a private network of lets say even just 3,000 of the better end affiliate marketers leveraging all of their traffic collectively? I highly doubt it...
You're thinking too narrow minded - as in not seeing the bigger picture of the internet and the traffic sources yet to be tapped. Just like big corporations dominate much of the outside world small business can and does still strive...
...It does so not by going broad but by going deep (que the gay webmaster jokes). They don't try and be Wal-Mart selling A-Z but only sell A.
Forget the link but it was about a $50 mil/yr soap business. They sold scented soaps in a few stores and then expanded online and have a loyal following of thousands who buy every scented soap they put out.
There will always be room for affiliates - maybe just not in the form you're thinking.
...It does so not by going broad but by going deep (que the gay webmaster jokes). They don't try and be Wal-Mart selling A-Z but only sell A.
Forget the link but it was about a $50 mil/yr soap business. They sold scented soaps in a few stores and then expanded online and have a loyal following of thousands who buy every scented soap they put out.
There will always be room for affiliates - maybe just not in the form you're thinking.
Awesome point and your right, there will always be windows for small business.
I was thinking more in terms of traffic sources, Facebook PPC being a great example. A network with a few hundred internal affiliates could rape Facebook all day.
In the end both sides stand to make money, but it will be much harder to find cheap traffic for the little people.