Talked to an Adwords rep about affiliate marketing

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He was like 'sure you can run your affiliate ads for diet pills, lemme help you get set up and shit'. He even gave me his direct number and told me to call back for more coupons.

True story, guess Google have different country policies.

Too bad I can't make that fucking diet pills campaign make a profit:(
 


Google have different policies between departments, and they don't talk to each other. I bet your campaign runs fine til their compliance dept looks at it, then they IP ban you, and refuse to listen to the fact they told you it was ok.

That said, Google's profits aren't rising quite as quick as they were, so maybe things are loosening up a bit.
 
amateursurgeon said:
Google have different policies between departments, and they don't talk to each other. I bet your campaign runs fine til their compliance dept looks at it, then they IP ban you, and refuse to listen to the fact they told you it was ok.
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A good example of that is the Google page layout algorithm where they are penalizing sites that have too many ads above the fold. Meanwhile, AdSense is emailing publishers encouraging them to ad more ads in noticeable areas, such as above the fold.

One hand doesn't know what the other is doing at Google, which is why they avoid giving out exact answers.
 
The first rule of talking to Google about affiliate marketing is don't talk to Google about affiliate marketing.
 
amateursurgeon said:
I bet your campaign runs fine til their compliance dept looks at it, then they IP ban you, and refuse to listen to the fact they told you it was ok.
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They are notorious for this kind of thing. I, for one, stopped using 'da google' quite some time ago.
 
So Google doesn't like Affiliates, but google just started their own affiliate network this year.

Anyone checkout their offers yet?
 
It's about the branding mentality. The same issue FB is rolling around with. They'd rather, at least for US campaigns, really concentrate on brands using them directly. This is why international campaigns run with more leniency to affiliates.
 
Google does not have a problem with affiliates, they have a problem with sites that add no value to the user experience. Period.
 
Google likes it now. Google doesn't like it. Google is changing again. Things are always going to be dynamic on the web with Google. Just provide quality content for your customer, be honest and do the right things. Quality will come out on top.
 
stussy5555 said:
Google does not have a problem with affiliates, they have a problem with sites that add no value to the user experience. Period.
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Define value to the user experience please. What I think is valuable, Google doesn't. What Google thinks is valuable isn't valuable to me.

The problem was stated above. Google's right hand doesn't know what it's fingers are doing let alone what the left hand and all it's fingers are doing.

1 department sets you up, the next one bans you for life and calls you an ingrate thief. When you attempt to contact for clarification of the rules you broke, an Indian making $5 a day sends you a copy and paste email response that has nothing to do with the question you asked nor answers your question.

Its such a fucked up mess the employees at Google don't even know what the fuck is going on.
 
would a site that has like 5 pages of content, and one squeeze page be something that google would ban?

like something that is looking for an email address, but not like "Win a free iphone" shit. Real shit, like let us help you get out of debt, etc...
 
Maybe the line that Google doesn't like affiliate marketing is just for public consumption. Without affiliates and merchants, they would have a sharp downturn in Adwords profits. Google can seem very fickle, but I think it's more a matter of what proves to serve their interests.
 
leadsupplier said:
would a site that has like 5 pages of content, and one squeeze page be something that google would ban?

like something that is looking for an email address, but not like "Win a free iphone" shit. Real shit, like let us help you get out of debt, etc...
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I did a worpress site for a local business and put Contact Form 7 on each page. The site was only about 7 pages and it worked fine. The only issue though, at first, adwords paused the ads and told me i needed to have a private policy visible link near the form. After I created that, it went smooth.

This business is spending roughly $700 a day on adwords too.
 
cheshire said:
When you attempt to contact for clarification of the rules you broke, an Indian making $5 a day sends you a copy and paste email response that has nothing to do with the question you asked nor answers your question.

Its such a fucked up mess the employees at Google don't even know what the fuck is going on.
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You can call Google - It's not just up to India.

The fact is, even for accounts spending millions per month, the quality/policy team is separate from the account team. It used to be that if you spent a lot, you'd get special access, but ever since some egregious violations happened on the account team side (e.g. approving things they shouldn't have, since they stood to benefit from increased/continued spend), all approval/policy review access has been stripped from the account team end of things.
 
amateursurgeon said:
Google have different policies between departments, and they don't talk to each other. I bet your campaign runs fine til their compliance dept looks at it, then they IP ban you, and refuse to listen to the fact they told you it was ok.

That said, Google's profits aren't rising quite as quick as they were, so maybe things are loosening up a bit.
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Holy shit, one shot one fucking kill. Nice reply, 100% accurate there. I've had 6-fig monthly spend accounts (yea, plural) shut down by their compliance teams for the exact same thing you identify in your reply here. Do not trust what you hear from Google... these people are not used to working in traditional advertising (print, tv, radio, etc) and they won't think twice about shutting your shit down. AdWords loves to flex in your face the fact that, anytime they want, they can tell you to go fuck yourself.
 
People tend to forget that all of their different products, while they all seem the same to us are run by different departments. I spoke to a GP rep two days ago about a new beta they are doing for smart phones. During the conversation I mentioned a number of my clients reviews had disappeared and a listing had split. While he had the ability to run our new trial campaign, he said he would kick it up the ladder...aka too fucking bad/nothing I can do.
 
Trololololol.. Google trolled me good on this one. Today open email saying Ads are not running for my site and won't run in the future to that site since it's a doorway page, never mind the dude on the telephone okayed a week ago.

Got damn Google lol.
 
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