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Got terminated from a network for the first time a few weeks back. The advertiser didn't like the traffic I was sending and my AM said that upon investigation they found my conversion rate was too high (30%+).

There was no warning, my AM didn't reach out to me and ask me to stop running the traffic or even ask any questions. It was a straight out termination based on one campaign (I was running another campaign with the network which was also doing as well with no complaints).

Personally I feel that the AM pulled a dick move as the traffic wasn't fraudulent and I knew it converted for similar advertisers in the past (had done over $15k of the same traffic on other networks who had the offer in the past and have always had my AM's wanting more). If he had asked me to stop the traffic to that offer that would have been easy to do.

The problem is that now I get the feeling that the AM in question put a black mark against my name as I've been straight out rejected almost instantly from the last two networks I've tried to join which has never happened before. No explanation either when I try to contact them for why my application was denied.

The question is, is there any way to

a - know you've been black listed

b - get off the list (short of applying in someone else's name and details)
 


Sounds like a dick move, they should of at least informed you one way or another as to why you got terminated. There are only a few reasons I would terminate someones account and this doesn't sound like one unless most of your leads were fraudulent. I'm not completely positive but once your on the list, you're on there for good.
 
I believe that a network can blacklist a publisher in the direct track system, so that if any other network that uses direct tracks receives your application, they would be alerted it it's possibly fraudulent.

Sucks bro.
 
mGrunin said:
I believe that a network can blacklist a publisher in the direct track system, so that if any other network that uses direct tracks receives your application, they would be alerted it it's possibly fraudulent.

Sucks bro.
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They can.

30% conversion rate on straight display traffic? High conversion rate is an indication something might be up. And 30% is definitely a flag. It's not normally grounds for termination--it shouldn't be.

Normally in this situation, it's the network's responsibility to provide some support. Ask for your blacklist of scrubbed leads for your account for the campaign in question. If that's not available, your network isn't doing their job and I'd consider legal recourse.

Or, you might ask them to score your traffic for quality on an offer with properly-functioning transaction ids. If you can hit that high conversion rate and not have the leads scrub out, they'll want to work with you. If not, you didn't deserve to get paid anyway.

Dropping garbage traffic on an offer can cost a network a ton of money, so they bring a hammer when they catch you looking suspicious.
 
I have my own offer and I recently found a publisher who was doing the craigslist thing, and if you are doing anything close to what this guy was doing then I hope you never get to run any traffic again but hey I am speaking from an advertisers point of view, its all fine when you are an affiliate who doesn't care at all about the advertiser or the affiliate network. Stupid craiglist spammers posting ads claiming the product is part of some study that they will be paid $500 just to take part in, then they link to the product and ask the customer to sign up and say that they will be refunded the small shipping cost and charged nothing further. Low and behold a month or two later and the chargebacks, complaints, and overall day 14, day 45 numbers are not at all what they should be.

In fact, I pulled my offer completely from the network in question and don't plan on listing again with them because of people like you.

miketpowell said:
Hmm I wonder what the problem was with your traffic....

http://www.wickedfire.com/affiliate...ally-give-shit-about-craigs-list-traffic.html

I think you got your answer on how this network felt.

To answer your questions - you've been blacklisted without a doubt and after that thread you made no one is going to believe you didn't run CL traffic. So sorry no way to get off the list probably.
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Judging by that thread and the fact you chose the blackhat icon I would probably be right in thinking you were doing something similar to what I just described.
 
LOL i love when the truth comes out on these threads...

CL is not good traffic when you make up lies... and the advertiser actually may become liable for you... this is why CL is not allowed... you fuckwit
 
jsphfcll said:
LOL i love when the truth comes out on these threads...

CL is not good traffic when you make up lies... and the advertiser actually may become liable for you... this is why CL is not allowed... you fuckwit
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Hav3n said:
LOLZ!
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eVandals said:
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I was about to get all butt hurt but .....live and learn no doubt.

Not to say that I was running CL traffic and the black-listing can be overcome by proxy so its more a case of moving on

In this case it was simply a case of me trying to hit that 10k$ a month barrier and being caught up with adding multiple income streams and eggs in many baskets.

Over-reached and broke one of my baskets unnecessarily....
 
How about.... running legitimate traffic that will actually convert for the advertisers and make everyone happy?

Is that too much to ask? Go read some nickycakes if you don't know how to market online without scamming advertisers and networks with your low quality leads.

Here you go: Newbie Guide | NickyCakes.com

You're welcome bro
 
wickedlucky said:
They can.

30% conversion rate on straight display traffic? High conversion rate is an indication something might be up. And 30% is definitely a flag. It's not normally grounds for termination--it shouldn't be.
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Agreed, it's pretty stupid to base it on just this. What if he was running a multi-page funnel, and the conversion rate from the last page to the network was 30%?

But seously, if you be running CL traffic you deserve it brah.
 
Unless someone really infuriates me, refuses to refund money, or insults me I never take it farther than a suspension for fraud / spam traffic. I'm more of a guy that forgives and forgets, people make mistakes and I don't think they need to be penalized for it forever.
 
tacoX said:
Unless someone really infuriates me, refuses to refund money, or insults me I never take it farther than a suspension for fraud / spam traffic. I'm more of a guy that forgives and forgets, people make mistakes and I don't think they need to be penalized for it forever.
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+1 for a true hustla ... you live and learn brah
 
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