The end of adsense arbitrage?

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As you can see in the following image, google adwords now shows conversion data, etc.. for the content network:

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You can easily ban domains using this interface. Great news for advertisers, not so much for most of us here. What will the impact be?
 


Hi, I've tried arbitrige but I'v never been able to get good results. Can you recommend any ebooks or sites that would give me some pointers?
 
Hi, I've tried arbitrige but I'v never been able to get good results. Can you recommend any ebooks or sites that would give me some pointers?



Good God. Another n00b asking stupid questions with the SAME DAMN SIGNATURE that I've seen ten other stupid n00bs pimping this week alone.
 
I disagree with the title of this thread..

When doing arbitrage, you're mostly (or supposed to be) targeting niches with payouts per click on an avg of $1 or more. Hell, even $0.60 per click is good, just so long as it has the traffic volume. With that said, there are tens of thousands of advertisers who use adsense usually by default without even realizing it (thanks Google for auto-checking it!) and I'd say that MAYBE 1%-4% of advertisers (mostly small advertisers checking for max ROI) will notice this and MAY do something about it. The guys paying dollars per click see Adsense as a way to not have to pay as much as search, and with the tremendous amount of sites showing their ads, the chances of them killing it are seriously, slim to none.

But... if you want to jump the gun and pretend like this will have an effect on your earnings, go for it. But you're just scaring yourself and that's all there is to it.

Remember.. you can make 10,000 sites for the same damn niche, with the same damn content if you really wanted, and arbitrage the shit out of all of them the same damn way, and do you really think advertisers are going to mull through each one and see who is converting and who isn't? Fuck no! And for the few that do? Well, there will most likely be 5-10 more advertisers who could care less that will replace them.

So arbitrage on my friends.
 
A new $7 ebook mentioned wickedfire specifically as a place to promote his or your own $7 ebooks.

Hahaha!! Which one did that?

You know, even though these sig spammers are annoying, I gotta give the guy credit who said that in his ebook as a way to annoy us and get us back for giving away paid ebooks for free, haha. Very clever. Unfortunately for him though, he kinda screwed himself because of our new filters we are adding along with our new servers. But hey, whether or not it has a good effect on WF, I gotta give him serious credit for being creative, making $7 off of it, and thinking of a new way to piss us off.
 
Hi, I've tried arbitrige but I'v never been able to get good results. Can you recommend any ebooks or sites that would give me some pointers?

I heard of this site called Wickedfire... apparently they have some excellent info on arbitrage...
 
Well, I really don't know how the ban process works. If it's on a per-site basis I guess most won't bother. But if you could ban, say, sites that have consistently performed at < 0.5% CTR, then that would be something to wory about.

Although the percentage of advertisers using the conversion tracker, and the percentage of advertisers that are even aware of this feature, are probably pretty small, like you said :)

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Hahaha!! Which one did that?

You know, even though these sig spammers are annoying, I gotta give the guy credit who said that in his ebook as a way to annoy us and get us back for giving away paid ebooks for free, haha. Very clever. Unfortunately for him though, he kinda screwed himself because of our new filters we are adding along with our new servers. But hey, whether or not it has a good effect on WF, I gotta give him serious credit for being creative, making $7 off of it, and thinking of a new way to piss us off.

Can you really do that? Create 5-10 sites on the same niche and then link them all to each other?
 
i think conversion tracking on the content network is awsome, that gives me a reason to use it.
 
but neglecting traffic from the search and doing arbitrage only, can you create duplicate content sites and not be penalized as far as quality score goes on adwords?
 
I disagree with the title of this thread..

When doing arbitrage, you're mostly (or supposed to be) targeting niches with payouts per click on an avg of $1 or more. Hell, even $0.60 per click is good, just so long as it has the traffic volume. With that said, there are tens of thousands of advertisers who use adsense usually by default without even realizing it (thanks Google for auto-checking it!) and I'd say that MAYBE 1%-4% of advertisers (mostly small advertisers checking for max ROI) will notice this and MAY do something about it. The guys paying dollars per click see Adsense as a way to not have to pay as much as search, and with the tremendous amount of sites showing their ads, the chances of them killing it are seriously, slim to none.

But... if you want to jump the gun and pretend like this will have an effect on your earnings, go for it. But you're just scaring yourself and that's all there is to it.

Remember.. you can make 10,000 sites for the same damn niche, with the same damn content if you really wanted, and arbitrage the shit out of all of them the same damn way, and do you really think advertisers are going to mull through each one and see who is converting and who isn't? Fuck no! And for the few that do? Well, there will most likely be 5-10 more advertisers who could care less that will replace them.

So arbitrage on my friends.

I've got a couple of arbi pages going but I'm only getingy .15c a click while paying .06c for traffic. Is there a thread somewhere that I can read up on how to search, find and make sure those $1 ad are on my arbi page.

I just cant get these $1 or even $.60 ad's on my page...
 
Find the highest PPC terms on adwords + make a site dedicated to that term + ??? = profit!

??? means discover a viable low cost traffic source
 
I just talked the kind folks at adwords, and told me that this report is currently only available to SOME advertisers. It will show up soon, in your report center as "Placement Report". They are working on it, but do not have a time frame for release.

Tob
 
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