[UPDATED] | Azoogle Questions and PPC

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So yes, I would like to say this is one of the best forums around, go ahead a flame! =D
As you can see, I took a different way of answering questions. I put what information I know, if you feel you ad upon something, or tell be I am right, please so. Thank you for any help WF.


1. What offers should I promote?

So a few days ago, I spoke with my Affiliate Manager. He showed me an offer he claims is doing well for other affiliates and also good for people with low budgets, it has a CPA of 1.50 USD and have an eCPC of 20-30 cents.
I posted something about working with AdWords for this offer, and someone said that I should be nervous loosing money on the 1.50 CPA offer and should go for something about 7-8 dollars.
The offer that my Affiliate Manager told me about was: iWon games.
This was the offer: IWON
They had to enter the information and I would get paid, no need for e-mail confirmation.
However, it seems that offer expired, so I cam back to square one. =D

2. How do I drive traffic to my Aooogle offers?

I will be using Yahoo! Search Marketing. I want to learn how to manage successful PPC. I know how AdWords work, with all their twists and turns, their ‘Quality Score’. I do plan to diversify my traffic, buy for now my mail goal is Yahoo! Search Marketing.

3. Landing Pages, redirects and iFraming, oh my?

Something that I am not too knowable able about is when to use a landing page, redirect, or should I iFrame. I know that this all depends on the offer, but what guidelines do people base their words from? How do they determine what to use and why?

4. How should I track conversations?

This is something that I don’t know much about. I know there are lots of posts here telling people how you can track your PPC campaigns and see what is converting for you, but I just don’t know enough about PHP and MySQL. I understand the process in which it’s done, I just could never code something myself sadly. It also bothers me that these guiles only show you the keywords. I would like even more tracking information. Things such as: Time, IP, Location, Keyword, Keyword, the Ad, the bounce rate of my traffic to the page. I am highly analytical, and I can use all this information to better my campaign, I will not slap up a PPC Campaign and hope it works. I mention databases because I would not want any know knowing what converts for me, but me.

5. Where should I get my keywords, and how many do you think I should have?

For my keywords, I will be using keyword tools around the internet, Google’s Keyword, and my brain for the most part. I do plan on collecting about 2,000+ keywords for any given offer, and then even more depending on how many things sound my offer. I also like the tool that a WF member posted that will create long tail keywords with State and City (Awesome work!). Now, I have read some blogs where people don’t like to use long tail keywords, and just like to use 50-200 targeted keywords to get their traffic then using thousands of longer ones.

6. How much should I be spending on PPC daily?

Hmm, I am only 16, so I really don’t have a lot of money. I have 300 dollars cash, a 100 dollar Yahoo! Search Engine Coupon. I will also get a few hundred for Christmas from family, etc. So as of now, I have 400 to use PPC and testing. I don’t have the whole day to work with, since I am only in 10th grade, I do have school. But I have the time from 6:45am-2:15pm to work on my internet marketing. I really don’t care about making money. I would just like some experience in the field, and understand what works, and what doesn’t. One of my mail goes is to break even on my revenue and PPC Expenses or have a RPO of -10%.. This will tell me I am doing something right and I just need to improve just a little to get to main goal. From there, perhaps I will try to push profit. If I can make profit setting things up, that’s wonderful, but I am here for the long term, not really interesting in profit yet.

7. Would any of you recommend the Per Per Click Formula?

I am very interesting in his guide on PPC and CPA. However, has anyone had any luck with it? Someone said that it's around zips/e-mails and that Google's next slap is going to be around those offers, so I am not sure. This will lead to my next question.


8 . Getting around Google Slaps and low Quality Score?

Now it seems that some people have lots of trouble with the Google Quality Score and high minimum bids. Now, if I were to use a landing page, it seems that I would need to make it more into a website with unique content, privacy, disclaim, contact us, and other related things and even a blog with new content every few days and then even SEO the site a little so I don’t have to worry about Google Slaps when I am sleeping; again, I am here fort he long term, and I would like to do things right.

9. Do zip/e-mail submits still convert?

I always wondered if these offers still converted for many people, and if they are making any profit from them? I saw some posts from some WF saying that they work for them and they make a few grand from them a month. Now, I don’t want to focus on these only, however, if they do work. This would be a great way for me to build up my cash so I can work on later projects since I am on a smaller budget.

10. What is “scrubbing” a lead?

Now it seems that this means when someone enter information for things such as e-mails/zips, if this information is in their database, they will not pay you. Now I can understand how paying for the same e-mail over and over again is pointless, it hurts people who promote those kind of as there is no way to stop someone from clicking your ad, completing the require action, and then find out that the database has their information.
This scare me from promoting zips/e-mails since I really don’t have the means to send converting traffic that is not going to convert
How would they do this on zip offers? There are sometimes 50,000+ people with the same zip code. Would they base scrubbing implications according to IPs of the transmitted IP address? There are only so many zip codes in the internet.

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I am soft spoken, so I suppose this does influence my font.
I am never read something where the font is large or deflated..
I am sorry.
 
Most of all stop asking these dumb questions, stop being scared, and test for yourself and see what you find. Many of us started without any guidance and learned our own way, you can too.
 
really? I think you're doing too much analyzing and not enough doing

You are right, I am.
I just want to make sure I can make something converting before I run though all the money I gave, I only have about 400-600 dollars. I don't want to lose it on a few mistakes.

If I had a larger budget, I would be doing testing and such.
But yes, I should stop asking questions and do something.

I understand why people say some of the best learning is from your own experiences.
 
You are right, I am.
I just want to make sure I can make something converting before I run though all the money I gave, I only have about 400-600 dollars. I don't want to lose it on a few mistakes.

If I had a larger budget, I would be doing testing and such.
But yes, I should stop asking questions and do something.

I understand why people say some of the best learning is from your own experiences.

In your stage you don't need to spend that much. Like it's been mentioned to you many times, pick up a free coupon.

Concentrate on long-tail keyword phrases and you won't have to worry about burning through that much cash. Find minimum bid keywords with low traffic but high conversions.
 
You are right, I am.
I just want to make sure I can make something converting before I run though all the money I gave, I only have about 400-600 dollars. I don't want to lose it on a few mistakes.

If I had a larger budget, I would be doing testing and such.
But yes, I should stop asking questions and do something.

I understand why people say some of the best learning is from your own experiences.

it doesn't matter what anybody tells you, you're not going to learn anything unless you see it yourself from your own experience. There are too many variables. Unless we see your landing page, your offer, your keywords, etc.., we aren't going to be able to give you a definate answer on how to make money. No matter what questions you ask, we're not going to be able to help you out like that. The questions you're asking won't help you unless we know that information, that's why I'm saying you need to get out there and just start testing. Everybody loses money in the beginning (except for me), so just get the fuck out there.
 
Thank you ubaidabcd, picking an offer is my biggest problem however.
I will be doing something rather then asking questions I know enough information about..
 
Thank you ubaidabcd, picking an offer is my biggest problem however.

Do you want me to hold your hand through this?

I can tell you that finding an offer with a high eCPC on your network is probably the offer that people are making the most money with. Although that doesn't mean that you will. Find an offer that you like, find an offer that you think might not be saturated with affiliates.

Picking an offer is not the problem, it's the testing. Finding which keywords convert for that offer. If you're on a low budget find an offer that you can find cheap keywords with. Use Google's Adwords tool to estimate how much these keywords will cost. Use the search engines to see how many competitors there are, use the search engines to see how many people are advertising that offer. etc...etc..
 
Yahoo has a "quality score" as well, but I don't know how it differs from the Adwords QS.

One twist you can try is building a landing page for the individual games. For instance you can try to build an LP for Solitare and then bid on solitare-related keywords. Do that for all the games the site supports.
 
Based on what your own feelings are already, don't do ppc. You're using free money to start, (with that coupon), wait until you start spending your own.

You won't be able to handle it.

PPC is not for the faint of heart and there's researching and then there's down right petrified.
 
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