US Drone(s) Crashing

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What does everybody make of this business?

First, a drone crashes in Iran, a place it shouldn't be. The US claims it malfunctioned and was destroyed, rendering it useless to Iranian military. Iran has a happy picture of their guys with a fully complete drone, claiming it's in tip top shape and they brought it down with their own tech-weapons.

Somebody is obviously lying here, so that had me thinking a bit. Now if that's not enough, it was reported today that another drone "malfunctioned" and crashed in Seychelles.

Now I'm the last person to cry conspiracy and say the Seychelles drone crash was scripted in order to reassure Americans that the Iran drone crash was indeed a "crash", but why would an American drone be 130 miles into Iran where it's not supposed to be?

It would make more sense to me that we were spying on Iran, but why the hell would we do it with drones that clearly have issues? Are we making more enemies for ourselves? Will this issue fade into nothingness? I haven't had much time to deeply follow the issue (if there's anything I'm missing) so I'd like to hear opinions here.

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pretty sure they're lying when they say they're not spying on Iran. also pretty sure the crashed drone was one of the top-of-the-line new age shit
 
SUP3RNOVA said:
It would make more sense to me that we were spying on Iran, but why the hell would we do it with drones that clearly have issues?
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are you serious with this question? you think we would send a drone out if we knew it was malfunctioning? lolol

i 100% think we were spying on Iran and there was a technical issue.

I don't even know what the media is saying now. But that bullshit about Iran shooting it down was propoganda. And even if they did shoot it down, they have a right too b/c we were spying
 
We are definitely spying on Iran, are you serious?

I think this is the model that got shot down (or crashed) over Iran, RQ-170 Sentinel stealth aircraft. Not some malfunctioning paper air plane that flew in the wrong direction because they forgot to fold one of the wings.

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Why would they use invisible drones in Afghanistan against alqaeda who doesn't have any radars? It's obviously aimed at Iran and probably Pakistan too.
 
leadsupplier said:
you think we would send a drone out if we knew it was malfunctioning? lolol
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and there was a technical issue.
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Right. So we're spying on a country with faulty machinery. Obviously this wasn't intentional, but don't you think they'd be better at testing for such things (given there was another drone "malfunction" a week later)?

I've read into it a bit more and there have been multiple drone "malfunctions" or "tech issues". Again, why would we risk spying on a sensitive country with faulty equipment?
 
i still don't know WTF your talking about

if the US knew the drone was faulty they wouldn't have used it. period.
 
SUP3RNOVA said:
Right. So we're spying on a country with faulty machinery. Obviously this wasn't intentional, but don't you think they'd be better at testing for such things (given there was another drone "malfunction" a week later)?

I've read into it a bit more and there have been multiple drone "malfunctions" or "tech issues". Again, why would we risk spying on a sensitive country with faulty equipment?
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Probably because it's not faulty equipment, it's imperfect/experimental. I'm sure the reward of the intelligence information is greater than the risk of countries stealing technology from downed drones, else they wouldn't be flying the drones in the first place.
 
I don't think any reasonable person believes that the US isn't flying drones in Iranian airspace and everywhere else that they think they can get away with.

The drone either failed, or was brought down by conventional or electronic means.

As for the new drone; who knows, could be a fuck up, could be spin.
 
Falian said:
Probably because it's not faulty equipment, it's imperfect/experimental. I'm sure the reward of the intelligence information is greater than the risk of countries stealing technology from downed drones, else they wouldn't be flying the drones in the first place.
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Exactly, and of course we are spying on them.

Even if Iran reverse engineered the drone and made their own and flew it over the US, it's not like we wouldn't notice it lol. We pioneered the use of drones, so of course we could detect them if they were used on us.

This is just speculation, but I heard either Iran said or someone else said they hacked into the drone and brought it down. In other words, took control of it wirelessly, crashed it, then went and found it. That sounds perfectly possible to me. People probably figured out how to hack into them and control them.
 
leadsupplier said:
i still don't know WTF your talking about

if the US knew the drone was faulty they wouldn't have used it. period.
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Sure they would. They've launched space shuttles known to have possibly catastrophic flaws.

Knowing that something is possible given the right circumstances doesn't mean that it is inevitable. 99% times out of a hundred you get away with it.

The one time you don't, you get press pictures of people celebrating an event that should really serve to impress upon them just how vulnerable they truly are.

Someone ran the risk/rewards and decided that this mission was worth it.
 
r3p1v said:
Exactly, and of course we are spying on them.

Even if Iran reverse engineered the drone and made their own and flew it over the US, it's not like we wouldn't notice it lol. We pioneered the use of drones, so of course we could detect them if they were used on us.

This is just speculation, but I heard either Iran said or someone else said they hacked into the drone and brought it down. In other words, took control of it wirelessly, crashed it, then went and found it. That sounds perfectly possible to me. People probably figured out how to hack into them and control them.
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Likely this. I remember a story on Wired or some such site that stated that the frequencies used to communicate with these things arent secure.

Supposedly it was something similar to WIFI,GPS or one of the other widely used bands.
 
I think i remember reading somewhere that they were dealing with a virus that was fucking shit up.
 
soulbyproxy said:
Likely this. I remember a story on Wired or some such site that stated that the frequencies used to communicate with these things arent secure.

Supposedly it was something similar to WIFI,GPS or one of the other widely used bands.
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Pretty sure this is complete nonsense. All battlefield communications is encrypted and there is no way they would leave drone control communications in the open and easily hacked, not unintentionally unless somebody screwed up or there was a malfunction.

On the other hand, how about a drone as a Trojan horse? Make it easy for the enemy to capture it but let them think it was a malfunction. Then track it as it gets moved to various depots for analysis/cloning. Then send in a real drone and blast 'em.
 
geomark said:
On the other hand, how about a drone as a Trojan horse? Make it easy for the enemy to capture it but let them think it was a malfunction. Then track it as it gets moved to various depots for analysis/cloning. Then send in a real drone and blast 'em.
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Thats what I'm thinking, in the video clips it looks like it's in great condition so I would assume it's GPS is working? If wheres my droid can track my phone I don't see why an advanced drone like that wouldn't be able to report where it's at. It's not like Iran is going to store this at some u-haul storage center, I'm sure its already been through a few key and secret military bases.
 
If Iran reverse engineered technology that we created, and we know the technologies flaws, couldn't we exploit those flaws if Iran tried to duplicate it?

Let Iran make the drones, then hack into them and bomb them with their own equipment. Who are they going to blame?
 
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