"Used Car" Net Marketer wants to go Legit, please AdVise!

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Here's my story: I'm currently using Clickbank products to make ends meet. Setting up cheezy sleazy one page sites with copy the Rick Jerk would be proud of. I realize that makes me bottom of the barrel, low on the totem poll, the laughing stock of these forums… The Used Car Salesman of the Net!

After being in the game for a bit and improving my IB knowledge exponentially through forums, podcasts, etc. I'm ready to go legit. And I'm looking for some general advice.

Current thoughts and research:

-monatizing blogs formed by RSS feeds and half original content
-Going purely PPC and linking to my affiliate pages or ads or PPC Arbitrage
-monatizing a forum (i have some good domains already)
-copying and improving some "sector" / niche sites on stuff like voip, gaming, gambling.

I have quit my job, though I still do some odd jobs and temp work when I have a slow week. I'm a young dude and I'm still living a "college" like lifestyle so expenses are very low. But I know this current route won't support much more, including the possibility of marriage.

Plus, I'm tired of my Used Car approach. I want to wash of the sleaze and go CLEAN…

Ahh, sounds nice. Fire away folks. Oh, and I have about $500 saved up to put towards my new venture. Thank you thank you thank you.

p.s. also posting this on wicked fire and shoemoney so please don't mark as spam… please

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I'm not going to bash you because I am glad you realize the ebook/CB route is the shitty newbie route and not the end all be all place to go. It's also good that you want to start developing sites and strategies with a real deal approach instead of trying to rip people off be convincing them that they will make a million dollars by the end of the year if they buy some $97 ebook. So kudos to you on that for coming to the realization on it.

Overall, your layout of ideas is a good one. If you are based in the US, you are going to want to use either a DBA (Doing Business As) or get an LLC, strictly for tax purposes. The fact that you are a young unmarried guy that seems to be living on his own, you fall into my tax bracket, and I think the going rate is something like 35% in taxes a year for personal taxes that is. So covering yourself with the legalities first is the best way to go.

Second, start small. Don't overdo it and don't shoot for the stars just yet. Practice makes perfect, and nothing beats doing trial and error of everything yourself first. You may read of success stories and failures here and think of what to do and what not to do, but nothing works best as doing it on your own. Live and learn, and come up with your own strategy and plan that works best for YOU.

Arbitrage is a very good first start place to go. It's quick and easy, and you can take that $500 and spread it around over 2 months time to get yourself used to the game. After you find something that works, the fun really starts, and your goal should be to make 100 new arbitrage campaigns within X amount of months (shoot for 3-6 tops). You can semi-automate the arbitrage process by creating the content sites with the ads on it, and then setting a scheduler in your ppc campaign area to spend X amount of dollars per day or per month, so that you don't have to babysit it and watch it very often, but definitely try and log in and get reports on which keywords are working and which aren't, and how much you are spending vs how much you are making. Keeping tabs and reports on everything is vital to running a good clean business. It will also allow you to keep tabs on how much you are spending and making so you can report it easily to the IRS and use the spending rate as writeoffs for your business.

With that said, you shouldn't only follow what I write or say, there are so many others out there with better tips and advice and experience in all sorts of different areas. But thanks for coming to WF with your question, and hopefully you'll learn a lot more here than anywhere else, and tell us about it too, along with your pals.
 
Good to hear - If you want to "wash off the sleaze," I'd stay away from gambling, though. ;)

Though I don't know what CB products you were pushing, affiliate marketing isn't the bottom of the barrel. Arbitrage is the bottom of the barrel... as far as the marketing food chain goes. I see guys absolutely killing themselves to make $60 a day, when properly-run aff campaigns can pull that w/ much less sweat (more thinking and tweaking, though).

That being said, there is still plenty of money in arbitrage so long as you eventually learn how to automate as much as you can.

Affiliate marketing is still the way to go until you find a niche you can really dig into and build a business around. Use arbitrage to find good niches where affiliate might work, then use affiliate sales to find out where you could start your own business.

Another good strategy is to:
  1. look for a niche that doesn't have many competitors, but has one clear leader that advertises heavily.
  2. Find whoever makes a knockoff product that has high quality AND has an affiliate program with a decent commission and conversion rate (they won't give you a straight answer, so look at their site and sales process)
  3. Join said aff program, then market the heck out of the product by using a "vs." type review. Use the big name brand so heavily in the SEO that you can utilize the big-name company's marketing against them.
  4. Build a mailing list and use it judiciously
  5. Springboard off that victory to offer more products.
 
Thanks for the encouragement guys. And no, I'm not joining these forums to slang my ebookzz. But I guess I shouldn't knock CB stuff too much because if it wasn't for me falling for the "hard sell" copy of some popular ebooks, I wouldn't have started exploring the IB world.

My problem is working on something consistently. I'm a workaholic but I get bored very easily. I always think I have discovered the latest and greatest instead of starting slow and hitting a niche. But I'm learning a ton. There are so many opportunities it's almost overwhelming.

Maybe I'll write my OWN ebook... haha
 
Thanks for the encouragement guys. And no, I'm not joining these forums to slang my ebookzz. But I guess I shouldn't knock CB stuff too much because if it wasn't for me falling for the "hard sell" copy of some popular ebooks, I wouldn't have started exploring the IB world.

My problem is working on something consistently. I'm a workaholic but I get bored very easily. I always think I have discovered the latest and greatest instead of starting slow and hitting a niche. But I'm learning a ton. There are so many opportunities it's almost overwhelming.

Maybe I'll write my OWN ebook... haha

Just do it like me then. I get bored of stuff easily so I have different things that I switch back and forth from. I run a forum, some websites, some blogs.. I build turnkeys to sell.. I write articles for others.. a little bit of web designing.. and then I'm just learning how to do arbitrage (which is going pretty good thanks to WF).

I'm not super rich yet off this shit but it's something to do and I'm getting there.
 
unluckily for me i dont live in usa and i was banned from adsense so i cant take advantage of arbitrage.

if i dont start my own company (still deciding) the cb route is pretty much all i got left.



So use YAHOO... to drive traffic too.... Whats your next excuse why you can't do something?
 
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ohh adderall how I miss theee... yes yes i have tried all the stimulants and some worked wonders. unfortunately Google banned me from using Adderall and Ritilan. And since Google is god. I had to listen.

no seriously i can't take any more stimulants b/c the counteract with another medication that i have to be on. :crying:
 
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