We recently started doing work for a friends company.

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Phoenixz

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Are these points unreasonable?
your input is appreciated.
1. Content needs to be delivered before any work can begin on a site. Us making changes every single day costs me money and time.
Basically they monopolize our time by changing so often. Some sort of rule needs to apply. No content up front, fine. Every change after the 3rd one, is $500 or something. That will force them to not treat us as slaves, but rather a valuable resource they shouldn't squander.

2. All technical changes must be discussed beforehand and approved by us. No going around to programming. In fact no more emails should go to anyone in our company except me. I am the point of contact, there is no other point of contact. This because of the crossword fiasco. ( one of their employees went around me and used an emergency only email to reach programming to get some automation done on something that was to be much much more simple)

3. No more oral agreements, everything must be on paper, anything outside of that paper agreement must be paid for.
Allowances can be made to keep the owner happy, but it must go all the way up. The owner must ask me for the favour. Not some bimbo commanding me to work all weekend because of some whim that was had.

4. We need time with content and sites before a deadline. Getting content on friday afternoon and having something due on monday morning is not something that is acceptable. IF that is the case, it needs to be paid for.

are these sort of rules the same thing any of you doing work for larger companies employ?
 


Well, according to this guy, you just need to treat them like shit, talk trash about their family, and have some illegal immigrant as an assistant who opens doors for you, and they'll hand you over $15k each time without question.
 
Well my first gay experience happened like this:

I was about 50 yards or so up this path when I noticed a man standing off the side of the path apparently staring into the woods. As I got closer I realized his pants were down around his ankles and I could see his ass. Now, I'm straight but I have to say that it was a really nicely shaped ass for a man and I took notice. I figured maybe he was drunk and just peeing in the bushes, so I started to walk quieter so I wouldn't disturb him. But as I got closer I started hearing strange grunts and sucking sounds. I realized there was another man blowing him.

Now, I'm not gay but I slowed my pace down to watch. I slowed and approached the standing man from behind. His friend didn't take any notice as his eyes were tightly closed. I came right up behind the man standing so that I could have reached out and touched him. That's when I brought the cinder block down on his head, hard. He collapsed on top of his faggot friend and I quickly finished them both off. I rolled them into the bushes and finished my walk. That was only my first of many such gay encounters.
 
Kiopa_Matt said:
Well, according to this guy, you just need to treat them like shit, talk trash about their family, and have some illegal immigrant as an assistant who opens doors for you, and they'll hand you over $15k each time without question.
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ah ha...now i know whats up
i need to bitch slap them.

great advice

im going to go ahead and buy a new bmw now...then go over there and take a piss on their meeting room floor
 
mituozo said:
Well my first gay experience happened like this:

I was about 50 yards or so up this path when I noticed a man standing off the side of the path apparently staring into the woods. As I got closer I realized his pants were down around his ankles and I could see his ass. Now, I'm straight but I have to say that it was a really nicely shaped ass for a man and I took notice. I figured maybe he was drunk and just peeing in the bushes, so I started to walk quieter so I wouldn't disturb him. But as I got closer I started hearing strange grunts and sucking sounds. I realized there was another man blowing him.

Now, I'm not gay but I slowed my pace down to watch. I slowed and approached the standing man from behind. His friend didn't take any notice as his eyes were tightly closed. I came right up behind the man standing so that I could have reached out and touched him. That's when I brought the cinder block down on his head, hard. He collapsed on top of his faggot friend and I quickly finished them both off. I rolled them into the bushes and finished my walk. That was only my first of many such gay encounters.
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nice story man...but who are you kidding?
were you the pitcher or the catcher?
 
Walk into the conference room when they are all in there, jump up on the table, drop your pants, and take a dump right there on the table while at the same time saying, "folded or wadded?".

Then tell them that their company, they didn't build that, you did.
 
Phoenixz said:
nice story man...but who are you kidding?
were you the pitcher or the catcher?
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I speak from experience when I say he's both a pitcher and a catcher. Our little mituozo is versatile. :3
 
If you consider them friends they won't be for long. They will take you for granted and when you refuse to go beyond the call of duty they will say I thought we were friends.

I could be wrong. Good luck.
 
Seems common in software at least. Our programmers have strict orders to only deal directly with client emails regarding integrations and API development, even then a project manager should be copied in on replies. Anything else and they refer them back to the project manager.

Modifications are charged for after the second change here. Basically they pay a licence but because it's software they think they can make as many changes as they want. I have to deal with this stuff everyday. We have £250 p/h development charges for anything outside of what is supported in their contract. This usually does the trick.
 
I think you know the things that make building the site easy for YOU, so lay it out and make them follow your yellow brick road. Not the other way around. Film screencasts, throw them up in a subdirectory for them, and explain all the basics of managing the site for 30 minutes or so.

Lastly, do the work in batches. Tell them they need a minimum of 4 changes OR 1 month, whichever occurs first to make changes. The last thing you need is someone calling you every 2 days to do something stupid like moving something 2 pixels over.

My 2c
 
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