Which keywords convert well for financials, like Pay Day Loans?

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I was doing consumer products and I know that the best converting keywords are:

"brand name" + "review" or
"brand name" + "discount" or
"brand name" + "coupon" etc.

But with financial products I am totally lost. Do generic kws, like: "online pay day loans" or "the best pay day loans" convert better than say "brand name payday loans"?

There is 10 places on every search page, so I guess, there is plenty of room.
 


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I've personally done thousands of dollars worth of testing and the highest converting payday loan keywords are

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I've personally done thousands of dollars worth of testing and the highest converting payday loan keywords are

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Wow, wow.. PLEASE make these keywords visible for premium members only... Why are you outing all of our best keywords?? Quick before too many people see it :\
 
Wow, wow.. PLEASE make these keywords visible for premium members only... Why are you outing all of our best keywords?? Quick before too many people see it :\

It should only be visible for wickedfire premium, I can't see them when I log out.
 
It should only be visible for wickedfire premium, I can't see them when I log out.

I can affirm that.

edit: But you shouldn't have posted them at all, I heard Jon is planning to decrease the requirements for Premium Membership.
 
Well, I've offered the results that were confirmed with my experience, in the OTO, free of charge. These keywords, so called branded terms, will make you most money in any product market.

Anyways, thanks.
 
These work best for me...

"brand name" + "nude pics" or
"brand name" + "hot girls" or
"brand name" + "screw you" etc.
 
Whenever I rank for payday loans I usually throw up some dating offer cuz I really like to test... OP you really have to test your traffic, just because they are searching for some quick cash doesn't mean they don't want a little rapey too
 
I was doing consumer products and I know that the best converting keywords are:

"brand name" + "review" or
"brand name" + "discount" or
"brand name" + "coupon" etc.

But with financial products I am totally lost. Do generic kws, like: "online pay day loans" or "the best pay day loans" convert better than say "brand name payday loans"?

There is 10 places on every search page, so I guess, there is plenty of room.

GTFO!
 
Please Google "branded v non-branded keywords"

It depends on the demographic and niche.

For example, "Xerox printers". Most would say that it's a branded keyword. Xerox is the company and owns the patent. Only they could have produced and sold their "brand" for years. However, those in corporate cultures evolved with it that "xerox" became like "googling" for searching for something. It became a noun and verb all in one.

So, people searching and landing on your pages might not even be looking at all for a Xerox brand printer, they might be looking for a type of commercial printer that is similar to it. The same is true for a lot of other types of keywords.

This is one of the reasons that a lot of people get legal notices if those Brands can find an IM'ers website using branded keywords. They don't want the search phrase to get so generic that their customers start associating those brands with comparable products and services.

The same happened on WF with "Drip Feed Blasts", "Social Signals" and a few other services. Those service names became phrases that people would search for and are now so generic that it's likely they aren't even looking for the originating service anymore when searching, but a feature type. Which means that their conversion nature changed.

So no, just tossing brand names in a keyphrase isn't always going to give you a better conversion rate. It might increase your traffic some, but more often than not it will just lead to additional bounces unless you know your demographic better than they know themselves and give them what they are really looking for. This is why split testing and landing redirects to additional related offers based on past and current behaviors are so effective.
 
So no, just tossing brand names in a keyphrase isn't always going to give you a better conversion rate. It might increase your traffic some, but more often than not it will just lead to additional bounces unless you know your demographic better than they know themselves and give them what they are really looking for. This is why split testing and landing redirects to additional related offers based on past and current behaviors are so effective.

Yup, agreed. Bait and switch, big no no... Also creates cognitive dissonance when they find out your not the page they were searching for. I mean that's what goes through my mind anyways. Not saying you wont get sales, but not always the best way to do things IMO...

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