Who Should Take The Loss?

[volknet]

Let's just for now say this is a hypothetical situation.

An affiliate network gives you permission to run a campaign promoting it in a bit of a gray manner. This promotion method is fully disclosed.

You earn roughly $60,000 on the campaign in a month.

Before payday, you get a call saying that the advertiser didn't like the traffic and that the network was not going to be getting paid.

Who should take the loss? Should they split the loss?

My personal opinion is that the network should take the loss for giving permission.

Thoughts?

(There is a reason for this question... )

 

[Scattered]

Obviously there is a reason.
If you have hard proof that the network said, "Hey, run it this way, we'll make a killing"
And you ran it that way
You should be paid in full regardless of if the network gets paid or not.

/thread

 

[aeisn]

Doesn't matter to me as long as I get paid.

 

[Rage9]

If the network gives you the OK they should take the loss. Or at the very least cover your traffic costs.

 

[thunderlips]

Let's just for now say this is a hypothetical situation.

An affiliate network gives you permission to run a campaign promoting it in a bit of a gray manner. This promotion method is fully disclosed.

dont need to read anymore.

network.

 

[barman]

That network betta have my money.

They pay!

 

[Sonny Forelli]

$60k eh? That sounds like a law enforcement officer's starting salary with only a few months of training!

 

[AdHustler]

Network takes the loss.

You already have most of your money because your on weeklies.

 

[Scattered]

If you only had 100k built up you could hire these guys
Protection.PPC.bz - Keep your shit protected.

 

[volknet]

$60k eh? That sounds like a law enforcement officer's starting salary with only a few months of training!

Lol! It does sound like it but not it.

If you only had 100k built up you could hire these guys
Protection.PPC.bz - Keep your shit protected.

I'll have to ask if they do specials for uper duper affiliates.

 

[Hamburglar]

Let's just for now say this is a hypothetical situation.

An affiliate network gives you permission to run a campaign promoting it in a bit of a gray manner. This promotion method is fully disclosed.

The big question is if you have proof of the disclosure and if it is clearly defined. Emails, Chat logs, etc.

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

The real question is, why did you not have weeklies on that volume. That way you're only fucked out of ~$15k? Or am I missing something? Either way, if your AM backs up your story, the network should eat it. If your AM has amnesia you should make it public.

 

[r3p1v]

If they gave you permission to not only promote it, but to promote it the way that you were ("gray manner") then you did nothing wrong and should be paid. If the advertiser didn't pay the network, that's not your fault. The network should still pay you.

 

[WhatupG]

It's a good reminder to always 'get it in writing', CYA.

If you, hypothetically of course, had this in writing, then the network should, hypothetically of course, eat the loss. I would assume the network would be following up and making sure everything's kosher since they already knew the potential for problems was there.

If you didn't get it in writing then, you need to take full responsibility for any greyish methods.

 

[groneg]

The real question is, why did you not have weeklies on that volume. That way you're only fucked out of ~$15k? Or am I missing something? Either way, if your AM backs up your story, the network should eat it. If your AM has amnesia you should make it public.

Agreed. Also, it takes 30 days to determine that your traffic is bunk? That makes no damn sense....

 

[AdHustler]

Agreed. Also, it takes 30 days to determine that your traffic is bunk? That makes no damn sense....

actually depending on the niche it can take that long.

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

actually depending on the niche it can take that long.

eLearners makes me wait 60 days on EDU shit. Good thing I send organic traffic or that would suck donkey balls.

 

[gopher]

I would hypothetically thank the unknown network for letting me send shitty job traffic leads to education offers for 18 months, realize this day has been coming for a while and that it goes against anything I supposedly believe in. Or maybe I could cry about my righteously and hard earned commission instead and write another post on my blog making sure to mention how good I am.

 

[conv3rsion]

I would hypothetically thank the unknown network for letting me send shitty job traffic leads to education offers for 18 months, realize this day has been coming for a while and that it goes against anything I supposedly believe in. Or maybe I could cry about my righteously and hard earned commission instead and write another post on my blog making sure to mention how good I am.

you are quickly becoming my favorite poster

 

[HockeyFan]

maybe you should post more details on your blog and get the money back via sponserships of the blog post. As in networks who will pay when their reps say shit.