WickedFire Has Gone to Shit and I Want My Money Back

[fm1234]

Keep seeing these threads.

Not that I did not predict this back in 2008 or so (it is, after all, a natural development in the life of a forum, to become riddled with dogshit and get exponentially more difficult to find value) but just today, I happened to hit a couple of marketing/web business forums I haven't seen in a while, and was astonished at how far downhill they've gone.

If anything, while Wicked has its share of issues, it is holding up remarkably well relative to its competition.

My forum list used to have 200+ URLs on it; as of this morning, with two more crossed off, it's below 70, and almost none of those marketing related -- mostly personal interest stuff, where relatively few people have agendas to push and most who do are as transparent as glass, and where the members are there specifically to feed the interest (bikes, guitars, fitness and other stuff I'm into.)

Something like fifteen years after I first hit an internet forum, I'm finally coming to the conclusion that most are just dead ends from the start. By contrast, Wicked still delivers not only after having arguably passed its golden age, but also at a time when virtually every other marketing forum out there is just a small time version of Warrior Forum or DP, with a bunch of clueless fucks leading a bunch of other clueless fucks around in circles. All that and free to boot.


Frank

 

[King.]

cool story bro

 

[erect]

We could provide nothing but markov text for threads and you guys would keep coming back because you love teh cock.

 

[babylonian]

... and I'm not talking about OP

 

[babylonian]

... and I'm not talking about OP

 

[secretagentdad]

Eh, pubs pretty good. Im in love with the premium section stuff though.

 

[Kelowna]

Eh, pubs pretty good. Im in love with the premium section stuff though.

The premium section here still holds a lot of great value for sure, is you want to see a forum that has gone down hill fast then have a look at webmasterworld.com as it has become the best place for whiners to hang out. We do enjoy PubCon though, maybe WF should start a PubFire or WickedPub get together for the premium members only, now that would be more than an interesting get together to attend. Vegas would never be the same!

 

[seous]

We can have a chat about music and guitar over Skype if you want. #no homo

 

[Drake]

70 Forums? Get a Life

 

[erifdekciw]

One thing I miss is the good discussions people had on the forums. Now its so taboo to talk about anything and share information with anyone. Everything switched from living the good life to being a bunch of jews hoarding any kind of information. Not saying people should open up about what they are doing. I just miss the openness and spreading of knowledge and open discussions.

The affiliate marketing section is turning into a bash affiliate networks for not paying section.

But you can't blame people for not wanting to talk either. They would rather throw up a blog post or start up a private forum and spark discussions there.

 

[evasive]

One thing I miss is the good discussions people had on the forums. Now its so taboo to talk about anything and share information with anyone. Everything switched from living the good life to being a bunch of jews hoarding any kind of information. Not saying people should open up about what they are doing. I just miss the openness and spreading of knowledge and open discussions.

The affiliate marketing section is turning into a bash affiliate networks for not paying section.

But you can't blame people for not wanting to talk either. They would rather throw up a blog post or start up a private forum and spark discussions there.

Whats the point of spreading knowledge in an industry where it is so easy to copy and duplicate someone else's campaigns? There is really no point helping anyone at all unless you are getting paid for it. I like the way these forums are heading. Keep the newbies dumb, and only the people at the top make the money.

 

[.Hack]

I will become the new CEO of Wickedfire and cleanup everything
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI_9Yxr0blo]Kenny Powers - K-Swiss CEO video (Uncensored) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[barman]

 

[fm1234]

posted by Drake:

70 Forums? Get a Life

A tough but fair point, sir. To clarify, at the rate I visit forums it will probably take me a year to work through the list again, eight or nine months minimum. The time I spend here is easily double what I spend at the next most-frequented forum, and there are only a small handful that I read/post regularly.


Frank

 

[flaw3d]

This happens in almost all forums.Only few things to do about that
premium section, which is here already.
Noobs will be quarantined and can only have access to certain forums

 

[JCash]

One thing I miss is the good discussions people had on the forums.

Looking at the threads from 2008 it's basically the same stuff from 2009, 2010, and 2011. Where to get cheap domains, does privacy protect work, how do I local seo, get clients or promote own sites, network xyz not paying, craigslist/CPA, facebook sucks, banned from adwords, banned from adsense, EPN plugin, EPN sucks, PPC or SEO, how I can has trafficvance, etc etc etc.

 

[erifdekciw]

Whats the point of spreading knowledge in an industry where it is so easy to copy and duplicate someone else's campaigns? There is really no point helping anyone at all unless you are getting paid for it. I like the way these forums are heading. Keep the newbies dumb, and only the people at the top make the money.

I'm not talking about share campaigns or anything to do with campaigns. I'm talking about discussions about what we do. Marketing discussions, website design discussions, any kind of discussions.

Looking at the threads from 2008 it's basically the same stuff from 2009, 2010, and 2011. Where to get cheap domains, does privacy protect work, how do I local seo, get clients or promote own sites, network xyz not paying, craigslist/CPA, facebook sucks, banned from adwords, banned from adsense, EPN plugin, EPN sucks, PPC or SEO, how I can has trafficvance, etc etc etc.

If you look at all the sticky posts and treasure trove posts all that stuff was created back then. You don't see that kind of information or input from the forums anymore. This is an Internet marketing forum, but 99% of people here hang around shooting the shit and BST.

Like i said earlier I'm not blaming anyone or anything. I guess I kinda miss the affiliate marketing equivalent of shooting the shit that went on in the affiliate marketing board.

Now the only reason to hang around here is to buy cheap stuff on BST and troll hellblazer in STS.

 

[ultimatewriters]

One thing I miss is the good discussions people had on the forums. Now its so taboo to talk about anything and share information with anyone. Everything switched from living the good life to being a bunch of jews hoarding any kind of information. Not saying people should open up about what they are doing. I just miss the openness and spreading of knowledge and open discussions.

The affiliate marketing section is turning into a bash affiliate networks for not paying section.

But you can't blame people for not wanting to talk either. They would rather throw up a blog post or start up a private forum and spark discussions there.

I agree on this one. Now, it's either you get information through e-books, a particular category on a forum (for premium members only), or getting a private session with a guy who called himself as a guru or expert.

I think people now are starting to get more information as much as they want and when they have found the "magic formula", they are holding on to it. Back in 2008, I have learned in forums. But now 2011 is going to end in few months' time, I did not even learn anything new.