Wordpress Modding Ideas

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trigatch4

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Alright so I'm back to the concept of simply modding wordpress to create my "local area directory". I'm hoping I can get the job done right the FIRST time so I can use the same concept on a number of sites.

Here are my thoughts so far... would love comments/ideas/help on getting this working and... if we can... maybe it's something everyone can use. Not only that, what if we could release it as a "Directory Plugin" of our own.

Okay maybe I'm being a little ambitious... ANYways:

THEME
Most recent widget ready theme that's easily customized. A 3-column theme with content in one section, widgets like "most recent", "top rated", "calender", "weather" and stuff in sidebar one and the "business directory" in sidebar 2.

ARTICLES
Providing more value than just a directory... a category called "Articles" with any relevant sub-cats such as "things to do" would house content for the main page with the ability to show "random posts" from the various article sections. Providing a seemingly dynamic website once you've got enough articles.

I had something like this custom coded and would be willing to share it with others. You list the categories you want displayed on the main page along with a small picture and next to the "category" icon it shows the title and excerpt of a random post in that category.

For a local area directory, though, you might have seasonal articles so you don't show Golf articles during the winter and Where to find a Christmas Tree articles during the summer. I suppose in the articles category you could include sub categories like seasons, months, holidays and apply the post to all relevant categories. Then, you could change your homepage to include the category, "Winter" instead of "Fall" with the random posts script and when the season changes.... you're all set. The icon and random posts would be much more relevant.

BUSINESS DIRECTORY
The business directory would be made up of categories with each business being a post in it's designated category. Clicking on a category in the right hand sidebar would list all businesses in that category and using "excerpt" they could show only the address/contact info. Obviously, you'd want the business directory to display alphabetically.

Here is where it gets a bit tricky - selling featured listings. If you buy a featured listing that would put you at the TOP of your category list when browsing the category. Most of the "sticky" plugins don't seem to work the magic this requires. You could also create a specific template for that category using something like categoryID#.php and insert the featured business directly into the code, above the loop. Do the featured listings get shown alphabetically? First come first served? Why not sell ONE special featured listing that goes above EVERYBODY in the category, even the other featured sponsors?

Would it be possible to create a subcategory called "featured" and make another statement, above the loop saying basically, "If this post is in this category and also in featured then they display alphabetically above the loop." And of course you could set different css styles to these listings to give them things such as colored backgrounds, use "optional fields" to include a picture (using meta) with their featured listing.

Or, what if in the "manage categories" field a plugin could help you do all of this in the backend... I WISH!

SIDEBARS
Having trouble finding where you can edit the display of your sidebars within the new wordpress where widgets are included. Changing depth, listing alphabetically and so on... anyone?

Also, is it possible to change the sidebar based on the category? I suppose if you have "categoryID#.php" you could call up a custom "sidebarID#.php" to correspond to what you want... is this the easiest way to go about this?

OTHER THOUGHTS
  • Using Google Maps API to display a map of each business location. Instead of physically putting the address into the post you could include different lines in the "optional fields" area and have the information pulled from there... otherwise your single.php for articles and business directory would probably be screwdizzled.
  • Advertiser Login? What if you could give each business their own login and allow them to change their data any time they wanted to? But they would need to be restricted to changing a single post. I suppose you could give each their own blog but that seems pretty moronic to do widespread. Of course for businesses that don't have a website it could be a pretty darn good idea. Hmmmmm.
  • Payment/Invoices. Obviously this would have to be manual... I would say Microsoft Excel would be the easiest way... including each advertisers data with a column for when their "featured listing" is set to expire. Sort by soonest date and you should have a list of people to contact for renewals. Accept paypal only and should be pretty simple. Wonder if paypal has a affiliate program for signing up new people?
  • Google Directory. You probably read about how google will be paying people to get businesses signed up. Why not help them get signed up for this and while you're at it, link back over to your own directory like "there is a good review for this business at this site"
SUMMING IT UP
I wrote this all spur of the moment and in one take... so it could be confusing as hell... maybe even useless. Basically, it's me thinking out loud. I'd love your views, opinions, ideas and help putting this together if you're interested in doing the same thing.

I realize the there is existing software you can buy that does these things but they seem to rigid and standard.... and WP seems so easy to mod that it could all be done much more easily not to mention beautifully. Someone mentioned using Joomla but I have no experience with it and heard it could be pretty clunky/confusing/irritating. I think WP could definitely do the trick pretty darn well.

Jerxs also mentioned a WP directory plugin but it looked like people were able to add their own links but it didn't have a whole ton of features that seemed as redeeming as customizing from the getgo and using the same idea/concept/template across multiple projects (assuming the first is successful).

Alright I am finished.
Eager to hear feedback, even from those who just want to tell me to STFU.
 


I read most of it, but why are you going to do all this work to see if something might work and try to hack wordpress to do something its not designed to do. Buy the $100 directory script, get it running in a couple hours and start selling spots. Once you know this is going to wrk then come back to doing something like this - upsell your current clients with your new features.

quit wasting all this time and effort on making a perfect solution to something that may or may not work
 
The domain I have is pretty killer and it's a city directly near me. Not necessarily looking for a quick fix - I don't mind putting in the dirty work ahead of time because I plan on making this work.

PS: Sorry it's a super long ass read... once i started thinking i can't seem to stop.
 
I read most of it, but why are you going to do all this work to see if something might work and try to hack wordpress to do something its not designed to do. Buy the $100 directory script, get it running in a couple hours and start selling spots. Once you know this is going to wrk then come back to doing something like this - upsell your current clients with your new features.

quit wasting all this time and effort on making a perfect solution to something that may or may not work

I tend to agree with nachoninja here.

While I am usually the first one to spend ridiculous amounts of time coding/hacking together my own solutions for my projects... I think the time on this one almost isn't justifiable.

You are going to easily spend 10-20 hrs modding the hell out of wordpress and will most likely still end up with on a semi-feasible solution.

I would recommend just biting the bullet on this one and dropping the 100 bucks for the pre-made script that will do everything you need and more.

You setup time is going to be less than 1 hr compared to 10++. After all time is money.

Besides, there is no reason to reinvent the wheel eh?

good luck and cheers :D
 
Alright after Nacho telling me a second time (I'm stubborn) in 2 different threads I started that for all intents and purposes (I used to think it was intensive purposes until like a year ago)...

I'm going to put phpmydirectory in a domain.com/directory of a wordpress site and simply try to mod my wordpress theme to look like the directory. Bingo bango jango and I'm off to the races!
 
I'm enjoying reading all of these directory posts lately.

I myself am considering doing a niche directory customized for the local area (north of houston) I'm looking at doing a kids directory (for the parents not the kids) it would include, local child care, entertainment, kid's products ect.

Here the model/competetion that I would be working against: www. kids-houston[dot]com I would go after their listings and a few more from yellow pages. (free for a little while and then half the price of the competetion) There would be a few main differences in the lay out though...I'm not doing any type of print magazine and I intend to incorporate video and pics. I like your idea about using pics next to the catorgories for the articles (as a hyperlink back to the listings correct?) I would like start off with video reviews of a few of the local daycares (this might be tricky as they can hide behind the whole "kids on public video" laws but if they want a free review, I can always do it after hours or whatever)

An idea i'm planning on implementing is getting the word out in the local forums in the area. There's a brand new neighborhood forum (in my brand new neighborhood) that I will be posting on to help directing traffic to my site. Of course there's always your local craigslist as well and other such places.

I am not keen on getting to technical with WP though. I would rather just for the 100 directory service I saw mentioned although I missed the name??? Any other good recomendations for someone like me who's more into the marketing and less the techy side? Oh and I would like to hear more about pay pal too if anyone has advise.

Good neuro flow you've got going...keep it coming. ;)
 
haha do you wanna know why CorrectAD stands out arround here? Its because the ideas he shares cannot easily be saturated, another words there are literally millions of niches in a few hundred thousand or million cities out there which means there is more then enough room for everyone to try this and earn some cash at it.

Ok I was thinking about testing it out but I did some research and came up with a few of my own methods besides just copying CorrectAD however his initial approach was a good one anyway after doing my research last night I'm pretty sure I've came up with a fool proof way to turn a profit with this, but it relies upon getting a 1% conversion ratio, now direct marketing (and the type I'm considering) the industry stats range from a .5% to a 2% conversion ratio so I figured I'd be safe and go with a 1% ratio.

So what the fuck does all of this have to do with this thread, well trigatch4 your overthinking this a little too much, I'll tell you what I'll PM you in a week or so to see if you've came up with a kick ass solution and if you haven't I'll give you mine for free, well the directory software that is.

You see since I'll be working on this and I know its not going to be sweet fuck all for me to code it, from start to finish creating an entire fully working directory software which is fully automated, ect... will only take me a week and then after that if I wan't to start up any other directory sites it will only take me 10 minutes.

But basically trigatch4 your overthinking the development on this, there is no need to hack at wordpress, the coding is pretty straight forward if you do it without a CMS.
 
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I would LOOOOVE that.

This first one is going to be a wordpress front for articles and stuff interlinked with the phpmydirectory to make it easy. I have a 3 day weekend and I want to take full advantage of it.

I've had a couple of these location domains for 2 years and had planned to make a directory on them and sell featured listings... but CorrectAD woke up a slumbering giant for me and brought the idea back to front and center. With a couple killer ideas to boot.

Thanks everyone and Aeq... I'll be eagerly awaiting that PM

:)
 
Aequitas,
I am very interested in helping develop this with you. I have started a local directory also.

I want the directory, but I am going to pull in scraped and RSS content for the main page and subcategories. I am also working on implementing a "review" system that lets anyone leave comments after registering on a directory link. So Ted Jones Light Fixtures can say "Go to bradsdirectory.com and review me if you like me I'd appreciate it"
Then all of a sudden there is local traffic being driven to me by the businesses themselves.

Few other ideas, but let's jam if you'd like company.
PS. I'm a PHP programmer
 
Aequitas,
I am very interested in helping develop this with you. I have started a local directory also.

I want the directory, but I am going to pull in scraped and RSS content for the main page and subcategories. I am also working on implementing a "review" system that lets anyone leave comments after registering on a directory link. So Ted Jones Light Fixtures can say "Go to bradsdirectory.com and review me if you like me I'd appreciate it"
Then all of a sudden there is local traffic being driven to me by the businesses themselves.

Few other ideas, but let's jam if you'd like company.
PS. I'm a PHP programmer

That might be an option basically what I planned on doing was pretty much just copying the features from Demo Directory heck I could even use the same layout just change the designs, it shouldn't be that hard but let's chat about it more through PMs or on AIM, but I won't be around much for the next hour or two I'm running some numbers trying to see exactly the cost/profit potential.

I'm only doing that to see which would untimately be more profitable, targeting online business, offline business, or both.
 
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