World Bank whistleblower.



this is all tinfoil hat stuff and no evidence. Not worth reading
I don't disagree with you but I want to test a hypothesis I have.

Do you understand how fractional reserve banking works well enough to explain it to someone?
 
I don't disagree with you but I want to test a hypothesis I have.

Do you understand how fractional reserve banking works well enough to explain it to someone?

Dude, that is like, a conspiracy, and we all know that along with santa, that doesn't exists!

Money is like; money and it comes from the gov! And that is for the people by the people, so it is all goodness.
 
This was one of the comments to this article, and I found it interesting. For what it's worth, here it is. Might be a whole new conspiracy thing, but without research on these things, you never know.

It is incredible what is going on what with Monsanto. I am from another part of science that is facing a similar problem. Pardon me for going on a tangential rant, but this whole mess with Monsanto has really inflamed me about my own research topic because of its similarities.

Prenatal sonography was pushed out into the public and has proliferated due to business success.. despite consumers worldwide oblivious to potential safety hazards, there are scientific studies that clearly paint ultrasound as a teratogen.

While the link between autism and GMOs remains tenuous at best, there is direct evidence that ultrasound can be linked to autism through mechanisms. For example, in autistic individuals there is often an increase in prefrontal cortex size. More neurons grow.

One of the side effects of ultrasound is increased cell growth. So, when your practitioner keeps that transducer hovering over the head with that flush 3D image, that ultrasound passing through the prefrontal cortex is causing it to grow. Could this be linked to autism? Why isn't more research being performed on this?

It's really hard to stir the public up with evidence like that. Of course the naysayers say that there's no proof that ultrasound can harm humans, but it is a fallacious argument that hedges on an absence of epidemiological evidence.

All epidemiological studies involving ultrasound are fallacious because practitioners do not record dose. The number of scans is recorded for money purposes. However, the number of scans is not dose... 5 scans for 5 minutes vs 1 scan for 60 minutes -- do the math, see what I mean.

Anyway, end rant...

What this whole Monsanto thing has reaffirmed in me is to not hold onto my words. I hope that people are open minded and listen, because us scientists who are out there are not necessarily journalists. We don't all have loud voices. We just have logic.

Good luck everybody.. If you're interested in the ultrasound topic, I have a blog at Is Prenatal Ultrasound safe? | An exploration of the debate collecting more information on the issue.
 
What would you say if I told you they loan out 10x what they take in?

That you're wrong.

They take in 100 and loan out 90, meaning the fractional reserve needed is 10. If people decide they want their money, then they only have 10, which is how bank runs bankrupt banks.

Of course, they could use that 100 as collateral to borrow more money, but that is gearing and not the same.

This at least, what has been told to me by a senior economist in a bank, but I'd like to prove him wrong, so please do.
 
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That you're wrong.

They take in 100 and loan out 90, meaning the fractional reserve needed is 10. If people decide they want their money, then they only have 10, which is how bank runs bankrupt banks.

What if I told you it is your signature that helps creates the 'money'. You see, your signature on that document is a contract of future payment which in itself has value.
 
That you're wrong.

They take in 100 and loan out 90, meaning the fractional reserve needed is 10. If people decide they want their money, then they only have 10, which is how bank runs bankrupt banks.

guerilla is right. The bank may loan out $90 of the original $100, but the $90 ends up back in the banking system. The bank that receives that $90 will loan out $81 and keep $9 in reserve. This process would theoretically continue until the amount is ten times the original amount deposited. The only money that is real is the original $100. The rest is basically created through legalized fraud. That is how I understand it anyway.

It's actually even worse than ten times in some cases. I think there are lower thresholds in the US where a bank only needs 0% or 3% in reserve depending on the amount of their deposits.
 
guerilla is right. The bank may loan out $90 of the original $100, but the $90 ends up back in the banking system. The bank that receives that $90 will loan out $81 and keep $9 in reserve. This process would theoretically continue until the amount is ten times the original amount deposited. The only money that is real is the original $100. The rest is basically created through legalized fraud. That is how I understand it anyway.

It's actually even worse than ten times in some cases. I think there are lower thresholds in the US where a bank only needs 0% or 3% in reserve depending on the amount of their deposits.

Wrong.

$100 loans out $90 to another bank that then loans out $80 to consumer. No more money was created. Bank 1 has $10, Bank 2 has $10, consumer has $80.

The problem arises when banks use their claims to borrow against:

Bank 1 has only $10 but has claims on $90 so they borrow $90 against those. Bank 2 has only $10 but they have claims of $80 so they borrow $80 and use the claim as collateral.

Now if consumer defaults on his $80, the banking system loses not only $20 but $190 if the banks can't pay back those.

That is essentially what happened with the subprime crisis.

Again, I used to think like you about the whole fractional reserve thing, but I think I may have been wrong.
 
I read your posts and realized, I pretty much want to kill myself rather than respond to all of it.

That is essentially what happened with the subprime crisis.
No.

Again, I used to think like you about the whole fractional reserve thing, but I think I may have been wrong.
Please read a book.

The bank may loan out $90 of the original $100, but the $90 ends up back in the banking system. The bank that receives that $90 will loan out $81 and keep $9 in reserve. This process would theoretically continue until the amount is ten times the original amount deposited. The only money that is real is the original $100. The rest is basically created through legalized fraud.
This is essentially correct.
 
^ Lol, just lol.

Great reply. If you're so clever lets hear it. I'm quoting direct from a senior economist and regular contributor to several libertarian papers.
 
^ Lol, just lol.

Great reply. If you're so clever lets hear it. I'm quoting direct from a senior economist and regular contributor to several libertarian papers.

you're going to lose this argument. fractional reserve requirements aren't a matter of opinion. you either don't understand what you're reading or you're reading the wrong shit. cziffra explained it just fine, no need for guerilla to repeat it.

protip: when your source material talks about the % required for a bank to hold in reserves, they are only talking about one bank, not the banking system. the 90% bank one loans out becomes a new deposit at bank two. rinse & repeat until the original amount deposited at bank one grows to 10x in the banking system as a whole.