Your thoughts on "The Doors of Perception" and other psychedelic readings

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Just finished a read of "The Doors of Perception" by the renowned Aldous Huxley along with "Heaven and Hell". This is recently accompanying a read of "DMT: The Spirit Molecule" and "Holographic Universe" (I've been on a psychedelic reading spree lately).

I want to start a nice intellectual discussion about these texts and the relationship with our consciousness and the world that we perceive. Is the human brain constantly diluting true reality into a form that we can comprehend? What really lies within all matter, the rise and fall of a thousand nations in every atom or just simple material properties? Do psychedelic substances reveal reality as it truly is, or just augment/distort the senses? Is this all a bunch of hippie nonsense?

Let's discuss. I would also like some recommended reading based on the above titles, the Tibetan Book of the Dead is next on my list.

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I read them all, and partaken in them all the sacraments. I love being on fire about these topics. But right now I'm in my "back to the city" phase. I'll go back to the mountain soon. I don't have much to add. I'll just throw some book titles at you.

The Hero of a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell (most important book ever written in my opinion)
Be Here Now by Ram Dass
The Adventure of Self-Discovery by Stanislov Grof
The Atman Project by Ken Wilber
Why Lazarus Laughed by Wei Wu Wei
The Physics of Immortality by Frank J. Tipler

I'll add more later, but it would take a while for you to consume those. I'm going through a Timothy Leary blast right now, but I'm finding it to be counter culture 101, not the "good stuff."

The Tibetan Book of the Dead is some crazy stuff. I read it before my first psychedelic trip and was convinced I experienced the many bardos described within. Then I read Leary and Ram Dass and Metzner's The Psychedelic Experience which explained the Book of the Dead in terms of a trip, instead of a death experience (is there a difference if you take it to the ego death level?). Gave me a frame of reference for all my subsequent tripping.
 
If reality and consciousness are something much bigger than we perceive, I doubt taking psychedelic drugs "reveal" this grand consciousness. As insane as tripping may be, that doesn't even compare to dreams; yet we don't see dreams as being the secret to existence.

I haven't experimented with it myself (I would like to), but it would seem deep transcendental meditation will get you as "close" as you can get. That truly aims to separate you from your material senses. Psychedelics only distort the material world.
 
I read them all, and partaken in them all the sacraments. I love being on fire about these topics. But right now I'm in my "back to the city" phase. I'll go back to the mountain soon. I don't have much to add. I'll just throw some book titles at you.

The Hero of a Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell (most important book ever written in my opinion)
Be Here Now by Ram Dass
The Adventure of Self-Discovery by Stanislov Grof
The Atman Project by Ken Wilber
Why Lazarus Laughed by Wei Wu Wei
The Physics of Immortality by Frank J. Tipler

I'll add more later, but it would take a while for you to consume those. I'm going through a Timothy Leary blast right now, but I'm finding it to be counter culture 101, not the "good stuff."

The Tibetan Book of the Dead is some crazy stuff. I read it before my first psychedelic trip and was convinced I experienced the many bardos described within. Then I read Leary and Ram Dass and Metzner's The Psychedelic Experience which explained the Book of the Dead in terms of a trip, instead of a death experience (is there a difference if you take it to the ego death level?). Gave me a frame of reference for all my subsequent tripping.

That's what I'm talking about! Can't thank you enough for the recommendations, all of these are duly noted.

I became intrigued with the Book of the Dead when I started to see comparisons made between "fleeting away from the 'great white light' and plunging headfirst back into existence" (paraphrasing of course) and the DMT release associated with death.

I'm only fairly new to the whole scene, being able to count the number of psychedelic experiences that I've had using only my digits. These texts have really put it into a whole new context, I'm positively ravenous for more. :smokin:
 
some great books already mentioned.

required reading:

cleve baxter primary perception
rupert sheldrake morphic resonance
bruce lipton the biology of belief
dean radin the conscious universe

couple others:

lynne mctaggart the field
psychic discoveries behind the iron curtain
Egyptian book of the dead
 
I personally like Jed Mckenna's series of books. His first book is Spiritual Enlightenment - The Damndest thing.

They don't exactly deal with psychedelics, but they do delve into what you are, what consciousness is and all that.
 
Will trade lsd for good content.

Sir, I will compose content that exceeds your wildest dreams for good ol' Lucy. My new rate is 1tab/500 words, no exceptions. :eatmousepointer:

To the poster above, I have heard good things about Jed McKenna. Isn't there some psy guru with the same namesake who's published a few books? Terence Mckenna? I haven't read anything of his, does anyone recommend it?
 
I was never really into psychedelic books more into smuggling/production books. pihkal and tihkal by Alexander Shulgin are amazing books. Check out a thread by chinacat72 on shroomery.org where he talks about doing a thumbprint of crystal lsd (10,000 doses) as initiation into the GFD. I'm also going to pm you about some content.
 
I was never really into psychedelic books more into smuggling/production books. pihkal and tihkal by Alexander Shulgin are amazing books. Check out a thread by chinacat72 on shroomery.org where he talks about doing a thumbprint of crystal lsd (10,000 doses) as initiation into the GFD. I'm also going to pm you about some content.

That china cat thread is insane. I read that years ago. I don't really understand how you can maintain after a dose like that. I understand you saturate and waste most of it, but regardless...


Sir, I will compose content that exceeds your wildest dreams for good ol' Lucy. My new rate is 1tab/500 words, no exceptions. :eatmousepointer:

To the poster above, I have heard good things about Jed McKenna. Isn't there some psy guru with the same namesake who's published a few books? Terence Mckenna? I haven't read anything of his, does anyone recommend it?

Terrence and his brother Dennis both went to South America to study anthropology. With this as their intention, they ended up trying Ayahuasca (DMT) with the natives and immediately became Psychonauts. Terrence became the biggest name related to Shrooms. He died not too long ago of a brain tumor.

His most important works are The Food of the Gods in which he discusses that early man could have found psychedelic mushrooms and this helped us create art and symbolic thinking, etc. He also talked about how the universe is creating complexity despite the second law of thermodynamics and termed this the principle of "novelty" and later talked about his Time Wave Zero code. He very well could have been the first person to really start talking about 2012, and this was waaay back in the day.
 
Sir, I will compose content that exceeds your wildest dreams for good ol' Lucy. My new rate is 1tab/500 words, no exceptions. :eatmousepointer:

To the poster above, I have heard good things about Jed McKenna. Isn't there some psy guru with the same namesake who's published a few books? Terence Mckenna? I haven't read anything of his, does anyone recommend it?

Terence M is THE absolutely most wonderful of the characters amongst the scene and tragically isn't with us any more... but loads of his tapes and sessions are....

i could go on. and on and on and on ...

but not this momemnt....

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also check out PiHKal and TihKal - Chemical Love Story - Alexander and Ann Shulgin
 
If reality and consciousness are something much bigger than we perceive, I doubt taking psychedelic drugs "reveal" this grand consciousness. As insane as tripping may be, that doesn't even compare to dreams; yet we don't see dreams as being the secret to existence.

I haven't experimented with it myself (I would like to), but it would seem deep transcendental meditation will get you as "close" as you can get. That truly aims to separate you from your material senses. Psychedelics only distort the material world.

What psychedelics have you done?
 
read all by terrence mckenna, the future history series by timothy leary, all by robert anton wilson esp cosmic trigger and prometheus rising, weil's the natural mind, all by John C. Lilly, all hakim bey ...
 
Chinacats threads are fantastic by the way.
IV DMT Revisited - The Psychedelic Experience - Shroomery Message Board

It was almost a year ago that I swore I would never IV DMT again. Do to my curiousity to penetrate further I ignored the reasons I swore off IVing this powerful psychedelic.

Last night:
Sweat started to bead on my forehead as I looked at the syringe that held 75mg. of DMT. I had been shaking all afternoon thinking about the experiance to come. After my kids were safley in bed I told my wife of my intentions and headed into the den. She gave me the look a mother gives her child when he does something playfully foolish. As I layed on the couch in the den I pondered why I chose 75mg. This was to be the highest dose I IV'd in my 20 year relationship with this drug. I decided to get on with it because the longer I waited the more my anxiety increased. I called my wife in and said it was time.

As soon as the plunger was down I could taste the DMT. It tasted as though it all went directly to my mouth. I then thought that mabye I did too much. As with many other psychedelic sessions I thought ohh well now is as good as any time to die.That was the last thought I had. It hit me with the full force of a comet hitting a planet. The first flash of it was amazing. I could feel the energy penetrate my central nervous system. It sent shock waves through every neuron and cell in my body. I felt something pull me as though I was being sucked up and out of my body. I was being shot through levels of visions ,but was moving so fast I didn't have time enjoy them.

I was totally gone. Then I came to a place were I started to slow down. I felt kind of uncomfortable because I could tell I was not alone. Then this worm appeared in a greasy mechanics jumpsuit and said not to worry they were just checking under the hood and making some adjustments. Then I heard laughter. After that I traveled further on. After this point I can't really describe what went down. All I can say is the universe is so, so fucking vast. We havn't a clue as to the immensity of it.

Having ego death is one thing, but this was so much more. Ego death was just the begining. DMT allows us to travel to other worlds that our wildest imaginations couldn't even fathom. I would blast into a plane and there would be a celabration.
The were so happy to have company. I remember hearing this language that was totally estatic. Every sound caused exstacy. Everything was at such a high rate of speed that I couldn't cling and stay in any place for more than a moment. So much information. I felt as if it didn't matter to them if "I" processed the info. It was being recorded on a molecular level.

I started to come down about 400 years later. As I decended I was able to enjoy the visual planes I was unable to see on the way up. On the way up I felt like a bullet flying through a cartoon matrix of beautiful scenery. On the way down I was going much slower. I clould feel my wifes hand on my forehead. As I finally came down I was a feather floating gently to the ground.

When I opened my eyes I could see my wife and tears in her eyes. She said that about 2 minutes in my pulse was to high to count. She could see my viens bulging. I have high BP as it is and I imagine it really shot up because I had a headache later on. She just stared at me and I couldn't say a thing. It took awhile before I could talk again. She asked me about it and I said nothing. I just couldn't find the words. She seamed very concerned that I could have had a stroke. She gave me a kiss and said "I hope you found what you were looking for". This comment of hers set off a long time of processing exactly what I was looking for and what I found. I concluded I was looking for astonishment and I had gotten it tenfold.

So for now I will swear off IVing DMT and just smoking it during mushroom trips. If I ever do IV it again it won't be 75mg. When I smoke it on mushrooms I seem to get more info from the experiance. IVing it is so intense that the only thing you learn is you don't have a clue. Its like throwing yourself on a psychedelic grenade. Too much info too fast.

As the night wore on I started to feal very shakey and weak. My head was pounding and I felt that as I had pushed myself to far. It was a psychedelic electrocution. I was left astounded and unable to comprehend what had happened. Today I feel better, but unconnected to everyday reality. I go through to motions of my day ,but part of me is still gasping at what happened. Last night I was watching CNN since I couldn't sleep and they were talking about the space program. I had to grin at the thought of my experiance and how many billions of dollars they spend. Walking on Mars wouldn't be anything compared to DMT.

So after nearlly 20 years using this substance in different methods and amounts I would say I reached my limit. I will continue to use DMT a few times a year, but not at this intensity. Last year I shot 50mg. and was blown away. After 75mg. I dare not venture further.
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