How to destroy asshats named Caleb...

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chucktown said:
Here you go, shitforbrains. I posted this article in an earlier post. you just chose to ignore it:

Lactic Acid Is Not Muscles' Foe, It's Fuel - New York Times

"Lactic acid is actually a fuel, not a caustic waste product. Muscles make it deliberately, producing it from glucose, and they burn it to obtain energy. The reason trained athletes can perform so hard and so long is because their intense training causes their muscles to adapt so they more readily and efficiently absorb lactic acid."

Now go get your fucking shine box.
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you need to understand that i am not discussing this matter any longer with you as you cannot refrain from using personal insults. and i hope that i don't need to point out how you contradict yourself, by first claiming that lactic acid is the cause of muscle pain and in the next source you post, it is the source of fuel for the muscle ;) so, you really should get an opinion yourself before posting link after link, of which you only tend to read the headlines as it seems. but knowledge actually comes from reading books as a whole and secondly from understanding what is written in them ;)
 


Dear god, I feel really bad for anybody who really wanted to learn something to improve themselves. Soreness != pain. Stop arguing about this because you clearly either have come to the wrong conclusions given good information or you just simply are having a communication breakdown.

As for bulking/cutting it's definitely possible to do this in a safe and healthy way. No one's going to promote so called "dirty bulks" (eg. eating all the salty fatty fast food you can get your hands on) as being healthy but there's no reason to dismiss bulking up because some people gain 75lbs of fat just to get a few more lbs of muscle. The truth is, you're going to gain a bit of fat when building muscle unless you have some ungodly way to know exactly what your body needs or you have excellent bodybuilder genetics. If you had the genes that make gaining muscle easy, you wouldn't be a skinny bastard now. You can, however, minimize the fat gain and make bulking a healthy process.

For a general rule of thumb avoid weight machines and corporate/fad diets and workout programs like the plague. If these are effective they're almost always just repackaging the same basic techniques that people have been using forever.

If you're a skinny bastard and need some motivation I strongly suggest you read this: What every skinny guy should know...
 
Laura said:
Skinny guys shouldn't care about bulking up if it's only for women. There are plenty of girls out there that want a skinny guy (or not). Worry about how you treat women and stuff like that - I can't tell you how much more important that is.
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Sure, the average woman would be fine with a skinny guy who treats her right. I don't like to settle for average.

Check out this article which is linked from that "What every skinny guy should know" article above. Welcome to AJC! | ajc.com

"When women are choosing mates -- except for very attractive women -- they're facing a tradeoff of choosing a guy who's very sexy or one who will stick around and treat them well," he added.
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This couldn't be more true.
 
znine said:
Sure, the average woman would be fine with a skinny guy who treats her right. I don't like to settle for average.
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So I guess really the issue is (and the link you posted backs this up): If you are guy looking for little more than sex and casual relationships, you are going to have a far easier time getting that if you are built. Just keep in mind that bodies change, but rarely people do. We are who we are and some muscles can't hide that. So what's left when the six pack fades and the tan you had is no longer perfect?

Speaking as a woman, who also knows plenty of women, I can safely say that there is nothing average about a man (or woman) who has character and brains packaged in a skinny exterior (or overweight, or funny shaped, or whatever). Had we had this conversation when I was 21, it would have been totally different. At 28, I know better.

Laura :)
 
Instead of arguing... it would be cool if someone posted a wickedfire workout thread. Something us skinny guys that sit in front of the computer too much can do every day to shape up.
 
damnit cyberworkspace you are pissing me off. everything you have said makes me want to punch you in the ovaries.

chucktown has got most of it right.

i will never ever go back to the methods i used once, because hurting muscles after training is definitely a thing of the past and so yesterday
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I'm pretty sure you're just fighting back to annoy people but w/e.
 
Laura said:
So I guess really the issue is (and the link you posted backs this up): If you are guy looking for little more than sex and casual relationships, you are going to have a far easier time getting that if you are built. Just keep in mind that bodies change, but rarely people do. We are who we are and some muscles can't hide that. So what's left when the six pack fades and the tan you had is no longer perfect?

Speaking as a woman, who also knows plenty of women, I can safely say that there is nothing average about a man (or woman) who has character and brains packaged in a skinny exterior (or overweight, or funny shaped, or whatever). Had we had this conversation when I was 21, it would have been totally different. At 28, I know better.

Laura :)
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I'm not disagreeing with you at all. Have you ever noticed how nerdy guys go from getting no women to being a hot commodity once they get to "marrying age"? My point was that the most beautiful women get the guys that are sexy and have character, brains, etc. I'm not saying that if you don't have a six pack your partner is going to be an circus freak.
 
cyberworkspace said:
to explain this, it only needs some simple, unalterable facts:

1.) you only have a certain amount of muscle cells. no training whatsoever increases the number of muscle strains or cells. you can only alter the cells metabolism and increase the amount of protein / water / fat stored inside these cells (hypertrophie) by training.

3.) your metabolism is in general very much dependent on your genetics. the amount of hormones, in particular testosterone, dictates e.g. a lot of your intra-muscular metabolism. then there comes insuline, igf-1, oestrogen, melatonin, orexin and hypocretin, to name only a few hormones that strongly influence your metabolism.

ah. and i gained 20 pounds too ;)
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:error::error::error:

The amount of cells in your body is fixed? You need to go and see a biology class.

Same goes for metabolism. While your genes determine SOME of your metabolism, levels of activity, type of nutrition, etc do add more variance than genetics account for.

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