She is 34, she'll get out of jail at 44. The chances of her breeding again at 44 is severely diminished. Evolution FTW
Baby drowns - mom gets 10 years
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She is 34, she'll get out of jail at 44. The chances of her breeding again at 44 is severely diminished. Evolution FTW
I doubt the UK system would have treated her any differently, tbh. Definitely several years in prison. Maybe slightly less time than 10 years because our system's like that on all cases in general, but still a long time.
That hopefully she'll be infertile by the time she comes out?
Mom will learn not to leave kids unattended in bathtubs.
Too many parents don't realize that kids are a full time job. Don't leave them unattended in water, at the top of the stairs, inside a gun cabinet or a knife drawer, on a highway, in the arms of a serial killer, in the bed of a pedophile, on top of a cliff, etc.
Parenting is a full time job, and too many mothers think motherhood is about leaving your kid to wander about choking cats and eating mud pies while she's on facebook all day.
Hate to say this, but I blame liberals for the collective shedding of parenting skills in our society.
Because she poured a bath, set her kid in it, and then left. That's fucked up, and it's called neglect. Neglect leading to death is definitely a crime.
Um...okay...apparently you think I had the usual WF attitude and was challenging your statement. Well, I wasn't.
And I do have a pretty good idea of how this country works as I posted about it in another thread and you agreed with me. 'Member...?
So let's try this again as I'm genuinely curious...how do private corporations in the security industry benefit from someone going to prison?
Because a growing number of US prisons are privately run. It's in their best interest to keep prisons full. More prisoners, more $.
Bet you 50$ the woman was a republican or a conservative.
See...here's where I have a problem.
There's thousands of instances like this where a parent could screw up and have something horrible happen. Anyone can have the occasional day where they're 'out of it' or just make a dumb mistake. It's a damn shame that this kid had to die but this is not along the same lines of leaving a kid in a burning hot car with the windows rolled up while the mother goes and shops for an hour.
No, this was just a grave mistake made by the mother who thought her kid was safe. Kids don't come with user manuals and to punish this woman like that for a mistake, even a big one like this is just wrong.
It's bad enough she lost her child. To take away years of her life in addition to that is just ridiculous.
I have a 16 month old.. we would never fathom leaving her alone in a bath tub for 1 minute let alone 10 minutes unattended; my wife won't even pee in the toilet in the same small bathroom while our daughter is in the bathtub alone because she can so quickly decide to stand up and slip/smash her skull.
But seriously, leaving a 13 month old unattended for 10 fucking minutes in a bathtub? I'm sorry but it's not a "lapse in judgement"; it's called just being a terrible parent and a fucking moron.. and her excuse of her child being a loner is just another example of her low iq.
I'd say just give her a hysterectomy.
But seriously, leaving a 13 month old unattended for 10 fucking minutes in a bathtub? I'm sorry but it's not a "lapse in judgement"; it's called just being a terrible parent and a fucking moron.. and her excuse of her child being a loner is just another example of her low iq.
I'd say just give her a hysterectomy.
QFT
Although, I think that loosing the child is punishment enough, too.
One of those stupid "when you become a parent, you'll understand" things.
(Yeah, I HATED that quote... now I know.)
Nothing more horrible could ever happen to a parent than loosing a child.
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Fuck you too, brah.
Nobody around here is as harsh as I am on bad parenting... Remember, I'm the guy who suggested it should be mandatory for Teen Parents and their unborn child to be put to death.
But at the same time, prison is never the answer. Why create a hardened criminal out of this woman at the taxpayers' expense?
She's just a dumbass, and in a perfect world we'd have put her down before the child was even born. Doing what you say would only cost taxpayer dollars to make the situation worse than it is now.
You're right, they wouldn't. Private corporations are well known for their ability to corrupt the British government too. -I find it interesting that you guys don't have a death sentence but put people away for many years on charges that wouldn't make anyone here mad much at all... It's a different system corrupted by the same source of evil.-joe- said:
Sorry Fiver, you're right. This is a pretty hostile thread and you got hit by 'friendly fire' there.Fiver said:
It's an evolved business model that is catching on like wildfire across the Security sector... Likely in more countries than just the US & UK.Fiver said:
In a nutshell, we the taxpayers are paying an amount of money per prisoner that is being passed onto these private corporations that are cutting costs bigtime, and profiting from it.
So if they tell uncle sam it costs them $40k to store an inmate safely for 1 year, then uncle sam bills us $40k.
Then they only spend $30k for that prisoner, pocketing $10k as profit, and that times the 2.3 Million ppl in Jails (ok not all of them are privately-owned corps, but a lot are) would be $23 BILLION Dollars a year in profits.
Of course you know, that is a large enough amount of money for them to lobby the hell out of washington to make sure the laws keep bending more and more in their favor, such as keeping pot illegal and so forth. -They want the jails full, plain and simple.
There are many, many documentaries on this subject that show great examples of how prisons in the USA are basically just profit centers for a corrupt and evil industry. -Worse yet, they NEVER rehabilitate anyone, they just make criminals worse so they'll end up back in prison.
It all started soon after Reagan was elected here in the states, much like the documentary Century of the Self talked about in part 4.
Bullshit. You loved saying that you Beck worshipper.Ar Scion said:
If anything, liberals smother a child with too much attention while conservatives teach 'self reliance' like the mother here quoted. You're logic is so twisted it made me laugh out loud literally!
For instance, look at the kid on the right side of this chart:
If her 10 year jail sentence stops even one other idiot from leaving their kids unattended, the sentence serves a good purpose. She deserves the jail time.
By that logic a Death Sentence (life for a life isn't that unreasonable, is it?) would be a much better deterrent.
By ANY logic, the death penalty would be a better deterrent. It's a little bit trickier to get that approved, ya think? What's your point?
The current deterrent is just fine. Serves a purpose.
Very tricky, but as stated above, the prison solution takes money out of our pockets, puts them in the enemies pockets, & turns this stupid woman into a hardned criminal with no job prospects in the future... Just to do what? HOPEFULLY serve as a deterrent for someone else? Wow... What a cost you're willing to pay for that hope...!
Strongly disagreed. The current deterrent isn't guaranteed to deter anyone at all; it's not like there are mothers out there Scheming to do this like it was a bank robbery... If this is going to happen to any stupid mom in the future, the likelyhood of them even hearing about this deterrent and then acting wisely upon it themselves is unfathomable. -They're stupid, remember?
I don't doubt this happens in the US, but if these private companies are making a good profit on the side, why do I keep hearing about jails in this country being so full they have to turn back criminals and set them free?
If these companies have the money, you'd think they could just build more jails and profit even more.
Alright then; enjoy the country you're allowing to be made when you support stupid-ass laws like that one. I know the security corporations that own prisons all do.
Because there IS a US Bureau of Prisons which the corporations haven't manage to totally dislodge yet... They have a few rules still in place that bind them from too much spending and development, etc... They simply aren't chartered for it all. Yet.Fiver said:
Sounds like Bureaucracy is working in our favor on this one!
Man, can you imagine how frustrating it would be to do anything at all working for the Bureau of Prisons? ;(
it's nice to know that at least 1 person fucking gets it.
She's a dumbass, an accident happened. But being stupid isn't a crime and I don't think leaving the kid in the bath tub was criminal. It was just poor judgment.
Private prisons systems are paid an average of $50K per inmate, per year. Of course they want long sentences.