The back of my head itches. I think I'll blow it off with a shotgun. - Kurt Cobain
No more Amazon for Ca affiliates..
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The back of my head itches. I think I'll blow it off with a shotgun. - Kurt Cobain
My latest and greatest update:
Bodybuilding.com is terminating me too. To avoid it, I changed the address in CJ.com to my Texas business address. And yes, it's in Austin. Lived there two years, I'll be back there in Sept for a bit
Texas is a stop-gap measure until I get Wyoming/Nevada setup, but it'll do. This affects more than just Amazon. Other businesses will follow suit. BB.com's affiliate manager told me that to even go with the law, it'd take months from the IT end -- not worth it, so they're just dropping everyone.
If I were to go overseas, it'd be Hong Kong without a doubt. I have some friends there and love the place. But I'm not sure if all the businesses I work with would affiliate with an international corp. I'm simply not at that point yet....
Bodybuilding.com is terminating me too. To avoid it, I changed the address in CJ.com to my Texas business address. And yes, it's in Austin. Lived there two years, I'll be back there in Sept for a bit
Texas is a stop-gap measure until I get Wyoming/Nevada setup, but it'll do. This affects more than just Amazon. Other businesses will follow suit. BB.com's affiliate manager told me that to even go with the law, it'd take months from the IT end -- not worth it, so they're just dropping everyone.
If I were to go overseas, it'd be Hong Kong without a doubt. I have some friends there and love the place. But I'm not sure if all the businesses I work with would affiliate with an international corp. I'm simply not at that point yet....
Fact is I can't find any good ones. I have networked a ton around the area. I have been to a few meetups. Any coming up you suggest?
Sounds tempting, esp with Arizona's state income tax being about half of CA's. Any specific plusses? Also, what's your favorite AZ city?
Maybe this will help anyone affected: http://www.wickedfire.com/affiliate...to-amazon-associates-program.html#post1339488
Just playing devil's advocate here ... Do most businesses/sites affected by this operate on tiny margins like Amazon? Granted Amazon is a huge chunk of business to lose, but I can't imagine every business with an affiliate program is going to stop accepting traffic via CA affiliates over a relatively small 7.25% (if that's what it is). Still don't see the state making much more, if any, additional revenue, but I don't think 2012 CA affiliate revenue will be $0.
I've always read that Amazon would play ball if it was a consistent tax rate, hence why they are pushing for this to be addressed at the federal level. They don't want the overhead of managing tax rates as they fluctuate be a few percentage points between the hundreds of municipalities in each state (and probably thousands in CA).
Businesses do that all the time. Implementing different tax rates is not the problem. They just don't want to pay the taxes, or put it on the buyers. People want to pay the cheapest price for something. If they have to pay a tax on something, they might as well go to their local Barne's and Noble / Target / Walmart (these are the businesses that are lobbying for this bill).
^Yer both wrong. The problem is that half of the shit amazon is "Selling" isn't theirs.
They have a complex biz model which keeps half of their stock in warehouses, and the other half you or I could have in our garage right now, to be sold ebay-like, directly to the customers shopping at amazon.com.
If everything amazon.com sold was warehoused, there would be no discussion here. They'd be ok paying a consistant tax rate.
But how in the fuck can anyone expect them to ask all of those tens of thousands of Independent sellers scattered across the nation to start collecting taxes, especially across state lines?!?
Anyone thinking it is even remotely possible for amazon to "play ball" on this tax is simply not versed in the facts.
They have a complex biz model which keeps half of their stock in warehouses, and the other half you or I could have in our garage right now, to be sold ebay-like, directly to the customers shopping at amazon.com.
If everything amazon.com sold was warehoused, there would be no discussion here. They'd be ok paying a consistant tax rate.
But how in the fuck can anyone expect them to ask all of those tens of thousands of Independent sellers scattered across the nation to start collecting taxes, especially across state lines?!?
Anyone thinking it is even remotely possible for amazon to "play ball" on this tax is simply not versed in the facts.
It seems to me like they don't care how you get around the ban as long as they have no fully direct ties with California based associates. Got the email below, yesterday. It basically says that I can still collect Amazon revenue from VigLink, even if the sales referred from my sites go directly to Amazon since VigLink is the affiliate and not me.
Derp Derp. While this protects you from Amazon for now, you might as well slim that list down to states with no corp tax. Just because there is no income tax, that doesnt mean there isnt income tax on corps.
I mean, if your gonna up and move you might as well move it somewhere where there is no personal and no CORP income tax. Here is the new list:
Nevada – has no individual or corporate income tax
South Dakota – no individual income tax, but has a state corporate income tax on financial institutions. ( wont effect most of us )
Texas – no individual income tax or corporate income tax but does have a gross margin tax on business. ( not sure about this one )
Wyoming has no individual or corporate income taxes
When you think about it though, if your gonna set all this up in another state, you might as well spend an extra week and go corp offshore like in Bahama's or someplace. Not to evade taxes, but for the added security of your privacy as well.
So what? Your top level Corp can wholly own the out if state LLC and use it's address. States like WY don't report anything to Feds or other states.