What to do when the big war hits?
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Lol @ everyone saying they'll build a bunker and stockpile this or that. Get fucking real. If you haven't done it BEFORE shit hits the fan, it will be too late. Clearly you are clueless about the materials, people, money, skills and time needed to actually create a self sustaining residence.
I don't live in the USA (or the "first world" for that matter) but I'll play. My plan is simply to GTFO to a remote but sparsely populated island ASAP. Then establish supply chains and labour from the mainland. By which I mean paying some guy to come over once a week in a boat with groceries, drugs and a fresh woman. And diesel if generator power is being used.
A real survival kit should contain minimum $25,000 cash in US dollars, a gold kilobar, a brick of cocaine, carton of cigarettes, multiple passports and matching IDs (blanks even better), water purification pills, antibiotics, multivitamin, some protein bars, a zippo, serrated knife, pistol+slugs and satellite phone. The last two are just to make you feel cool (tho a satphone with data terminal can be helpful for checking stats online) but the rest of them will be the real ticket to freedom/safety.
I don't live in the USA (or the "first world" for that matter) but I'll play. My plan is simply to GTFO to a remote but sparsely populated island ASAP. Then establish supply chains and labour from the mainland. By which I mean paying some guy to come over once a week in a boat with groceries, drugs and a fresh woman. And diesel if generator power is being used.
A real survival kit should contain minimum $25,000 cash in US dollars, a gold kilobar, a brick of cocaine, carton of cigarettes, multiple passports and matching IDs (blanks even better), water purification pills, antibiotics, multivitamin, some protein bars, a zippo, serrated knife, pistol+slugs and satellite phone. The last two are just to make you feel cool (tho a satphone with data terminal can be helpful for checking stats online) but the rest of them will be the real ticket to freedom/safety.
Ahh fuck it's in Iceland? Forget it son, that country has some scary volcanoes that are predicted to trigger the end of the world. Chinese communists are easier to fight than fiery lava. :2gunsfiring_v1:
1. If it's the end of the world, WTF does it matter how close you are to the volcano?
2. Yellowstone's is bigger.
3. That was your 1k post. Boobs now, dammit! :zzwhip:
My take:
Nuclear war would wipe most of the earths population out, be prepared for nuclear winter, no game to hunt, no fish, huge radiation levels. Only option would be underground bunkers with 10 or more years forth of food. But there's no guarantee that after the radiation level has dropped you will be able to survive.
On other cases - learn to hunt, learn to fish, learn to farm (seeds and other shit), learn first aid, learn carpentery, learn buschcraft, learn metal works, learn to herd animals etc. Arm yourself heavily, have the nescessary tools and supplys, have books on the most important topics, find a remote location. Best bet for survival is to start a small village with people u know and can trust. Chances surviving alone or with only your family is pretty slim, because if something happens to the providers in the family everybody else is screwed. In the community, others can help out. Not to mention if any gangs should pop out you can defend better, when there's many of you.
If you can survive atleast for 1 year, you will have no problem surviving to the rest of your life. Because by the end of the 1 year most of the population who are weak and ill prepeared, will be wiped out.
Nuclear war would wipe most of the earths population out, be prepared for nuclear winter, no game to hunt, no fish, huge radiation levels. Only option would be underground bunkers with 10 or more years forth of food. But there's no guarantee that after the radiation level has dropped you will be able to survive.
On other cases - learn to hunt, learn to fish, learn to farm (seeds and other shit), learn first aid, learn carpentery, learn buschcraft, learn metal works, learn to herd animals etc. Arm yourself heavily, have the nescessary tools and supplys, have books on the most important topics, find a remote location. Best bet for survival is to start a small village with people u know and can trust. Chances surviving alone or with only your family is pretty slim, because if something happens to the providers in the family everybody else is screwed. In the community, others can help out. Not to mention if any gangs should pop out you can defend better, when there's many of you.
If you can survive atleast for 1 year, you will have no problem surviving to the rest of your life. Because by the end of the 1 year most of the population who are weak and ill prepeared, will be wiped out.
not really... it would only wipe out major city centers, and nuclear bombs don't disperse radiation to the degree that a reactor meltdown does.
I have figured out that my best means of escape will be on the water as all hell would break lose on land. My first target would be one of the largest sailboats I could find, at least 35ft. Next is to hijack that shit and sail it south into the Caribbean.
Ive got a few books, food, gas masks, my gun, and my lock picking tools. All it needs to do it get me to the boat and out into the water.
Of course if said invasion is from the water and the Navy and Coast Guard are pissed, I am screwed. But if its zombies I should be good!
Ive got a few books, food, gas masks, my gun, and my lock picking tools. All it needs to do it get me to the boat and out into the water.
Of course if said invasion is from the water and the Navy and Coast Guard are pissed, I am screwed. But if its zombies I should be good!
Given the shitload number of nuclear bombs that will be fired i bet the fallout will be massive not to mention what would happen to all nuclear plants that would be in the blast zone.
This is pure panic speaking... Think about what the targets would be in any nuclear war.
50 missles at Moscow, 50 missles at DC, 100 missles at Beijing (i'd hope!) and the rest scattered at various silos around the world, all in isolated areas, never big cities.
So what we have here is 3 or so missing population centers, a few dozen or so flattened government facilities in the middle of nowhere, and perhaps another few capital cities 'inconvenienced' around the globe depending on the attackers.
Since Hiroshima and Nagasaki are both bustling, modern cities today I'm thinking the damage just isn't as bad as the movies we watched growing up made it all out to be.
Skynet's attack was very different than a war between countries would go down.
How many people here honestly have the know-how to track, kill, skin, gut, and cook a deer? Or any animal for that matter? Even a fish. I'm sure some of you do, but assuming most of you do not know how to survive in the wild.
IDK about you all, but if some world ending mishap occurs, I'm running for the Rocky mountains and finding a cave. I'm sure I can make do.
IDK about you all, but if some world ending mishap occurs, I'm running for the Rocky mountains and finding a cave. I'm sure I can make do.
I'm not a ballistic nuclear missle expert, but isn't their warheads powerful enough to take out DC size city (one missle per city) . According to wiki there are 1950 active nuclear weapons in US alone. Quite an arsenal. In all out nuclear war i certainly would use all i got and level all the military, goverment and infrastructure in the target country.
Geez you guys are depressing.
My take: It's a facade. The end of the world isn't happening, humans will continue to survive for our lifetimes, and we're not going to end up in a Mad Max environment.
There's definitely problems in the world, but I think conversations like this are ridiculous. I think 80% is simply control, manipulation and obedience by fear, etc. Nobody gives a fuck what's going on because everyone is certain there's going to be a nuclear winter shortly, or Mayan 2012 prophecy will wipe us out, or Jesus is going to return and damn us all to hell, or the entire economic system as we know it will collapse taking all infrastructure with it, etc. All the while, there's a group of super wealthy laughing their asses off at how stupid we are, while they consolidate their wealth, and strip everyone else's wealth away from them.
Quit with the doom-and-gloom, and fear mongering. It's depressing.
My take: It's a facade. The end of the world isn't happening, humans will continue to survive for our lifetimes, and we're not going to end up in a Mad Max environment.
There's definitely problems in the world, but I think conversations like this are ridiculous. I think 80% is simply control, manipulation and obedience by fear, etc. Nobody gives a fuck what's going on because everyone is certain there's going to be a nuclear winter shortly, or Mayan 2012 prophecy will wipe us out, or Jesus is going to return and damn us all to hell, or the entire economic system as we know it will collapse taking all infrastructure with it, etc. All the while, there's a group of super wealthy laughing their asses off at how stupid we are, while they consolidate their wealth, and strip everyone else's wealth away from them.
Quit with the doom-and-gloom, and fear mongering. It's depressing.
Fuck... I thought it was just only me thinking about this shit...
What would I do? Lets see.. First it depends how fast this shit is going to happen... If it happens soon and fast I will probably be fucked... I dont think I would die... I live in Europe (Balkan)... I was born on country... I have land, my grandfather still have pigs, sheep and stuff like that... So if economy crashes, I think that here where I live it will not have much of an impact like it would have in large american cities for example, because here LOTS of people still live of a land, like they were 80 years ago... And most of people in big cities still have parents, grandfathers or at least just a land somewhere...
I hope it will not happen at least in next 5-10 years, so I have time to make bank and prepare myself for the crash... If I have time I will prepare myself with food and water for a year, guns, cash gold and silver, medicine, try to build self sustainable house and list goes on, on and on...
And if I will be lucky and nothing happens in my life time, it will be there for my children...
Question is how you will take advantage of collapse?
What would I do? Lets see.. First it depends how fast this shit is going to happen... If it happens soon and fast I will probably be fucked... I dont think I would die... I live in Europe (Balkan)... I was born on country... I have land, my grandfather still have pigs, sheep and stuff like that... So if economy crashes, I think that here where I live it will not have much of an impact like it would have in large american cities for example, because here LOTS of people still live of a land, like they were 80 years ago... And most of people in big cities still have parents, grandfathers or at least just a land somewhere...
I hope it will not happen at least in next 5-10 years, so I have time to make bank and prepare myself for the crash... If I have time I will prepare myself with food and water for a year, guns, cash gold and silver, medicine, try to build self sustainable house and list goes on, on and on...
And if I will be lucky and nothing happens in my life time, it will be there for my children...
Question is how you will take advantage of collapse?
LOL; perhaps your forum username here gives the impression that your thinking on this matter may be a bit skewed? Hmm?
On the other hand, the economy is so fucked up right now with no hope of ever being corrected, THIS is the naive mindset that is making the majority here feel sorry for you.this thread make scarednothin' gona happens dude, trust me!
There are more good reasons for world economical collapse right now than there are sand an a friggin' beach. The things we don't know is which is the first domino to be pushed over, and when.
But a bunch of dominoes are going down! That much is inescapable.
But as said somewhere above somebody already owns that land and is probably in that cave by the time you find it... What are you going to do, kill people for their cave?
And then elsewhere it is shown that the wildlife could be gone in a matter of days with hundreds of millions of people and no grocery stores left... What would you eat?
Doesn't sound like you've thought it all through, dude. If you bought a Cave NOW I wouldn't worry for you so much...
Redundancy is key in ICBM warfare. Russia likely had half of their aresenal aimed at DC alone, but their silos are spread out all over their country.
Our aresenal is the one you shouldn't fear... The US nukes aren't going to blow up anywhere but a place like China, Iran, or N Korea. (Or whomever their enemy is that day.)
The rest of the world put together doesn't have many nukes, certainly not as many as the US, and they're not all aimed at the us... For instance Pakistan's nukes are only aimed at nearby countries like India.
And if China is attacking the US, (for example) why would Pakistan fire at India? They likely wouldn't unless there is a reason to, so then there simply wouldn't be that many nukes flying.
You may have a good point tho, I'm more inclined to think the head of corps and ppl who are really in charge are laughing at such talk.
But they can't laugh too hard... They do need to stop us from killing ourselves in most scenarios because they themselves have to be afraid of losing a fat customer base like this one... Which is basically teetering on the point of civil war.
So if their control over the american public is absolute, tensions are about to ease off, Obama won't get re-elected and the next guy will appear to make some good decisions right off the bat that the majority of americans are very happy with.
If their control isn't absolute, then they're shaking in their shoes a bit at this point worried that it could all spiral out of control too fast for them to stop.
I guess we'll have a better idea by mid 2013.
The ones that really could are currently banking billions.
But I suppose even on a smaller level you could build a well-fortified compound that is self-sustainable and easily defended... It would look just like a medieval castle or something similar where you can protect a small population of hotties and servants.
-It'd be pretty damn expensive though... Not something to attempt without a pretty good idea of when the collapse is coming.
