Unbelievable Dubstep Dance Skills



[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lLqqR2pcws]WOBBLEGIRL - This is how you dance to dubstep - YouTube[/ame]
 
seosly said:
"Brostep" is a ridiculous subgenre that spawned off of dubstep. I think the whole "genre" thing in music (electronic especially) is getting out of hand, so I hate to even be the one posting this; but the track IS dubstep, in ever sense of the word.
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I've been listening to electronic music for a long time and some of the genres are very defined. Trance sounds nothing like Techno, which sounds nothing like Jungle, which sounds nothing like House.

I'm fine with British Dubstep != US Dubstep (just like British Classic Rock is quite different from US Classic Rock). I'm just sick of everything with wobbles and drop = dubstep. Most of the shit that Skrillex makes is not dubstep, most of it is Glitch and Electro House. He says that himself. Yet now everything with bass and weird noises = dubstep. That's like saying everything with a guitar is rock and roll. No, some of it is Country and some of it is Jazz.

The first song I was talking about sounds more like a downtempo / brostep blend and its gotten pretty far from what I think of as dubstep. At some point, its not dubstep anymore.

I understand not liking to overuse of genres, but some in electronic music are really defined and if you like techno and someone says "hey that trance sounds good" its gonna get under your skin.
 
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conv3rsion said:
I'm just sick of everything with wobbles and drop = dubstep. Most of the shit that Skrillex makes is not dubstep, most of it is Glitch and Electro House.
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Truth.

I understand that a lot of electronic genres are "very defined"... but as the technology to make such music becomes more and more accessible so does the amount of "experimentation" that takes place (in theory at least) and thus the boundaries of these so called "very defined genres" become blurred... *shrug* that's just my take on it at least.

Skrillex (barf!) is the perfect example. His music (if you want to call it that) doesn't exactly fit into one particular "genre".

conv3rsion said:
I understand not liking to overuse of genres, but some in electronic music are really defined and if you like techno and someone says "hey that trance sounds good" its gonna get under your skin.
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More truth.

and as much as I say I "hate genres", they are a necessary evil. They're certainly a great tool for discovering new music you like..

My apologies if I came off rude at all in this thread, it was never my intention.

But enough bickering... on with the CHUNES!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVEwemk-TRU]Emancipator - Shook (Mobb Deep/Sigur Ros) - YouTube[/ame]
 
I think the reason people have trouble (particularly skrillex fans, lol) working out what is dubstep and what isn't, is that dubstep's evolved pretty rapidly, and ended up becoming ridiculously varied.

It pretty much started off with Caspa and Rusko:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Riv8gXlf2xk"]Rusko - Cockney Thug - YouTube[/ame]

Then subfocus came along (not really dubstep, but they played at the same clubs as caspa&rusko, so influenced dubstep producers)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdJgwf-_HGY"]Sub Focus - Rock It - YouTube[/ame]

Then along came Mt. Eden:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIEEIif21g4"]Mt Eden Dubstep - Sierra Leone - YouTube[/ame]

Followed by Skream:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2XmLcnYSwQ"]LA ROUX - IN FOR THE KILL (SKREAM REMIX) - YouTube[/ame]

Then along came Bar 9:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJlo0hWnZWc"]Bar 9 - Piano Tune - YouTube[/ame]

Followed by Nero:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gb3faOzvBk"]Deadmau5 - Ghosts N Stuff (Nero Remix) - YouTube[/ame]

And suddenly, Borgore really changed things up:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJYfOXe5zLc"]Borgore - Love - YouTube[/ame]

And dubstep went from there, and now they're pretty much all following on from Borgore, with people like Funtcase etc.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP55VCEhRKs"]Funtcase - 50 Caliber - YouTube[/ame]

(woops, ended up making that post longer than I meant to, good excuse to post some dubstep though, haha)
 
-joe- said:
I think the reason people have trouble (particularly skrillex fans, lol) working out what is dubstep and what isn't, is that dubstep's evolved pretty rapidly, and ended up becoming ridiculously varied.
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While your point is valid, your post is a very crude, inaccurate version of the way it actually went down. Just saying.
 
seosly said:
While your point is valid, your post is a very crude, inaccurate version of the way it actually went down. Just saying.
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I'm talking about the UK dubstep scene, I'm not a fan of the American dubstep I've heard (you never know though, I'm open to new things).

I'll make a few corrections:
Rusko&Caspa probably weren't the first people to produce dubstep, it originated as an offshoot of drum and bass. But they were the first to really run with it.

Nero was playing clubs before Skream, but if he was on the list, and so was Rusko, you wouldn't pay much attention to Nero - he hadn't really honed his skills yet.

I also realise that Skream made hits before the la roux lets get ravey remix, but that was the first, if you know what I'm saying. Poison Dart for example, looking at his page, looks like it was released before the la roux remix, but he didn't really play that for a while, and if he did, it didn't really get noticed too much (I know I didn't notice it).

So, other than what I listed, what's wrong with what posted?

P.S. Didn't list people twice, cause if I did that, I'd be here all day. Subfocus released stuff like timewarp, Skream released some real bangers like shot yourself in the foot again, etc, Rusko sold out and started working with Britney spears... the list goes on.
 
-joe- said:
I'm talking about the UK dubstep scene, I'm not a fan of the American dubstep I've heard (you never know though, I'm open to new things).
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Oh excuse me, I didn't realize there was a difference in the "scene"... it all started over there no matter what "kind of dubstep" you listen to.

As far as inaccuracies:

For starters, Mt. Eden does not belong in there... at all.

and Skream was at the forefront of the scene (regardless of whether or not he was playing in clubs)

As for it being crude; there is way more that actually went down (obvoiusly).

But then again, I am just a stupid american.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqu1zodA_tU"]Doctor P - Vampire Dub [HD] - YouTube[/ame]
 
That video was fucking amazing, nigga got skills.

Anyway I cbf starting a new thread and I've been a dubstep producer for a day now and here's my attempt...It's actually very fun.

Hood Up! by knfzn on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

To all the dubstep heads, listen to it above and tell me what you think. Does it sound like "legit" dubstep? Keep in mind I'm a hip-hop producer who was looking for a challenge. I'd say this is hybrid of hip-hop and dubstep I think this sounds alright.

I could get a little more creative with the bass programming though, I kept it simple mainly because I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. :D I'll probably crank out some more tracks, like I said before it's quite fun.
 
seosly said:
Oh excuse me, I didn't realize there was a difference in the "scene"... it all started over there no matter what "kind of dubstep" you listen to.
Yeah, it all started over here, but by the end of my post, we weren't on the start, there were American people producing. Also, you have problems with me using the word scene, and then use it 2 sentences later.
As far as inaccuracies:

For starters, Mt. Eden does not belong in there... at all. Erm.. Yes. Yes they do. They influenced a lot of dubstep producers, and the majority of people call them dubstep.

and Skream was at the forefront of the scene (regardless of whether or not he was playing in clubs)Later on, yeah, a lot more people started paying attention to him, and being influenced by him in their music. Caspa released Cockney flute in 06, and people heard it, and it started getting dubstep popular. If you're not getting heard by people, and other people are, you can't say you're at the forefront. If a tree falls in the forest...

Admittedly, he was a major player, but even though he was making music, it didn't really start influencing dubstep's progression until he was playing in clubs & on the radio, and getting himself heard.
As for it being crude; there is way more that actually went down (obvoiusly). Yeah, I only listed the major events really. There's only so much that can be put into 1 wickedfire post, you could write a thesis on the progression of dubstep.

But then again, I am just a stupid american. Where did I say that? Don't try and force words into my mouth to make your argument look better.
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-joe- said:
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Haha... sorry about the whole "scene" thing; I don't know where I get off doing such a thing. Truth be told I tend to way overuse a lot of ermm... grammatical elements(ellipses and quotes mainly) for effect. Sorry. Totally a miscommunication on my part.

and the "I'm just a stupid american" was just me reading (make that misreading) into your first sentence. :rasta: my apologies.

Looking back on it, I think I think we're talking about two different things... I think I'm talking about how dubstep came to be, and you're talking about how dubstep came to be popular. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Regardless, anyone who actually gives a shit about music is ok in my book, so my apologies if I was rude.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB3kaviEy_k]Bluetech - Alchemie Dub - YouTube[/ame]
 
For those of you hating on genres, I would like to rub that shit in your face a bit more:

Ishkur bitches!

Oh, and the song in the first vid is definitely Pumped Up Kicks by Foster the People. Actually really dig the vocals on that one.
 
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