Anwar al-Awlaki killed in Yemen



This sets a dangerous precedent that american citizens can be targeted for assassination by their own government without a judicial process as guaranteed by the constitution.
 
I was going to protest, but I'm afraid they are going to attempt to have a missile bring me in for questioning.

Back to facebook.... cya
 
CAIRO (AP) — A Saudi militant believed killed in the U.S. drone strike in Yemen constructed the bombs for the al-Qaida branch's most notorious attempted attacks — including the underwear-borne explosives intended to a down a U.S. aircraft, and a bomb carried by his own brother intended to assassinate a Saudi prince.
The death of Ibrahim Hassan al-Asiri would make the Friday drone strikes on a convoy in the central deserts of Yemen one of the most effective single blows in the U.S. campaign to take out al-Qaida's top figure.

It is for sure Obama has delivered a massive crippling blow to this terrorist group that has operated since the Regan days

Administration officials confided Friday that at least 23 senior extremist Islamic leadership figures had been killed or captured, in US or allied operations in Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen and elsewhere since August 2009.
 
The problem here is that apparently 90+ percent of the population DOES NOT (repeat that again) trust our own government.


American Citizen = Trial (and with a jury).

End of discussion.

No matter what you think about terrorism - citizens have rights and protections FROM GOVERNMENT TO PROTECT US AGAINST THE ABUSE OF POWER OF GOVERNMENT.

How can any of you be o.k. with the U.S. using missiles to kill a citizen? No matter what he's accused of.
 
^^^ I absolutely support it. An Americas citizen making war on the USA is treason. Make no mistake about it, he was making war on the USA and was a causuty of war. He was directing forces to attack Americans globally and was an active and imminent danger to Amercians everywhere.
 
mikecarquote said:
^^^ I absolutely support it. An Americas citizen making war on the USA is treason. Make no mistake about it, he was making war on the USA and was a causuty of war. He was directing forces to attack Americans globally and was an active and imminent danger to Amercians everywhere.
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And the proof is where? God help you if they ever decide YOU are a problem.... I mean I heard you were building bombs in the basement.
 
stmadeveloper said:
And the proof is where? God help you if they ever decide YOU are a problem.... I mean I heard you were building bombs in the basement.
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It's wasn't bombs, stmad, I heard it was just a Youtube series.

Cause, you know, a bomb might get him into trouble 'n all... Surely no american could get into any trouble just for TALKING, could they? We do have that 1st amendment protecting us... So clearly we're safe. :uhoh2:
 
You can't be serious?? You don't have to look very hard to find ample evidence of his involvement. For example the direct statements of people involved in failed attacks, like the failed attempt to blow up Northwest flight 253 one of dozens of examples.
 
Ar Scion said:
Nigga knew he was wanted. Nigga knew he was doing something illegal and the Americans were coming after him.

He had the choice to give himself up peacefully.

Can't believe you guys are questioning the legal basis for knocking him da fuck out.
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Charles Manson can escape from prison tomorrow and not only would it be illegal for Dog the Bounty Hunter to launch a missile at him, it would also be illegal for the President of the United States to slap Manson in the face, unless it was in self defense.
 
some of you right wingers have no idea how law works, you're happy to give your government carte blanch to do whatever it wants with these terrirosits, i get that, it's a easy decision to make because you have absolutely no sympathy for them.

But law works on precedent, if they get away with doing it to the terrorists, they can draft out equally draconian laws, and even just apply the same rules to it's citizens.

This like the patritot act, and TSA are caused precisely because you've given your government cart blanche to do whatever it wants.

Nobody cares about that guy who got bombed in Yemen, but if you look at it objectively, the US just bombed a guy from the air in a foreign country. What does that make the Yemenis feel? Does it endear them to the US. Before you say so, it has nothing to do with how bad the guy is, it's about principle, you don't do everything and anything you want in someone elses country.

The US has a major public relations problem with the world right now, they're perceived as going round the world doing whatever the fuck they want and not caring about other countries and people.

Guess what, things have changed, the US isn't the only player in the world anymore.. While the US is going round bombing and screwing it's way around the world, the Chinese are going round sneakiily taking over and they're being slightly more diplomatic and tactful. Building vital infrasture like bridges and railaway networks in africa in return access to their precious minerals..

I'm sure the chinese are still exploting, but at least the chinese aren't handing over wads of cash to dictators to allow them to buy mercedes cars, and actually getting into the muck and helping the civilians as well.

Meanwhile china is also selling a lot of cheap goods to USA and forcing it's economy down under.

The game has changed, if you think you can say fuck you to the world and do whatever you want thinki agauin
 
I had a speculative thought just a moment ago. It occurs to me that Obama has been a more effective anti-terrorism president than anything else. He's been amazingly effective at giving orders to kill off and round up the terrorist big game. I wonder if he's trying to prove on some level that he isn't a Muslim infiltrator by being so effective against these guys. You have to realize the decision to take out bin Laden on the ground took big balls. An easier alternative they floated at the time was to bomb the house from the air, which may have destroyed his body and the cache of info that was retrieved.
 
Moxie said:
Charles Manson can escape from prison tomorrow and not only would it be illegal for Dog the Bounty Hunter to launch a missile at him, it would also be illegal for the President of the United States to slap Manson in the face, unless it was in self defense.
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But Beth would bust his ass!
 
Long quote from here, but worth reading if you support the State's move to assassinate al-Awlaki:

What is important to add, now that the American government is assassinating citizens without trial or due process of any kind, is how frequently it wrongly asserts that someone is an enemy of the United States. Ponder the track record of the entity that is now judge, jury and executioner.

As far back as the 1996 bombing at the Atlanta Olympics, a bungled FBI investigation and a news media indulging its worst impulses turned heroic security guard Richard Jewell into a prime suspect. During the espionage case against Wen Ho Lee, the nuclear scientist found himself held in extremely harsh conditions, including a long stint in solitary confinement. As the judge overseeing his case would later say in a formal apology to the defendant, "During December 1999, the then-United States Attorney, who has since resigned, and his Assistants presented me, during the three-day hearing between Christmas and New Year's Day, with information that was so extreme it convinced me that releasing you, even under the most stringent of conditions, would be a danger to the safety of this nation." As it turned out, that information was inaccurate, as evidence uncovered later proved. And Lee ultimately won $1.6 million in a civil suit against the federal government and several news organizations complicit in its wrongful behavior.

Remember the anthrax attacks on government buildings, media outlets, and the U.S. mail system? "As the pressure to find a culprit mounted, the FBI, abetted by the media, found one," David Freed wrote in a May 2010 Atlantic feature story. "This is the story of how federal authorities blew the biggest anti-terror investigation of the past decade--and nearly destroyed an innocent man." His piece is about the persecution of Dr. Steven J. Hatfill. It's necessary to say so because Army defense researcher Bruce Ivins, who the FBI later fingered as the guilty man, might not have been the culprit either.

What's notable about the cases I've just mentioned -- and there are more like them -- is that the wrongly accused defendants were put through hell despite enjoying the safeguards of a traditional domestic law enforcement investigation. No wonder that government mistakes against folks afforded fewer rights have been even more common. In the aftermath of the September 11 terrorist attacks, the Bush Administration assured Americans that the detainees being held at Guantanamo Bay were "the worst of the worst." As it turned out, "Many detainees locked up at Guantanamo were innocent men swept up by U.S. forces unable to distinguish enemies from noncombatants.'
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Can the Nobel institute take away a nobel peace prize?

It should be taken away and used to club Obama over the head with after this...
 
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