Believe in KARMA?
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Here's a definition of Karma that I think most people identify it as.
So stop trying to justify it as what you claim it is, because all that is, is a healthy mindset. Not something you should relate to delusional religious dogma.
"DERP be nice to people and ur life will be nice derpPP"
"lets relate that to indian mysticism derp derp"
"lets relate that to indian mysticism derp derp"
That's actually true, and I see the wealthy exploiting it first hand up here. Pisses me off, because many of the poor actually buy into it. "you're a poor, no good for nothing rice farmer because you fucked up in a previous life, so be a good little peasant during this lifetime, and maybe karma will treat you will and you'll be better off next life!"
And people actually believe that shit up here...
I claimed in my first post that the way I view Karma is not how most people view it.
Because something has a religious base it does not mean you can learn nothing from it.
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Regarding karma, depends on what you mean by it as different philosophies and religious thoughts define it differently. Interestingly, in almost all religious contexts, it's something to "escape" from, not a mythical dispenser of rewards and punishments. Without making any claims, if karma can be most accurately defined as "doing" or simply an act, then wiredneko's explanation is spot on; future consequences are a secondary concern if a concern at all.
Regarding karma, depends on what you mean by it as different philosophies and religious thoughts define it differently. Interestingly, in almost all religious contexts, it's something to "escape" from, not a mythical dispenser of rewards and punishments. Without making any claims, if karma can be most accurately defined as "doing" or simply an act, then wiredneko's explanation is spot on; future consequences are a secondary concern if a concern at all.
Version of Karma that leads to view of "He's born disabled therefore he must have done something bad in his previous life" = bad, plus based on believing in 'previous lives'
Version of karma that says "I can influence my own immediate and less immediate future by the actions I do right now" = spot on.
Version of karma that says "I can influence my own immediate and less immediate future by the actions I do right now" = spot on.
So you *believe* that life begins and ends abruptly. That belief doesn't even conform to the laws of physics (think of the frequency response of systems and consider the discontinuity of a life beginning and ending with nothing either before or after) much less a higher level understanding of existence.
I'm a strong believer in Karma, actually. I'm not even sure why. Family must have rubbed off on me with all that karma talk 
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I think many people don't know the actual concept of "Karma" as it appears in Buddhism, Hinduism etc. and simply confuse it with cause and effect.
"Karma" (falsely used) as a synonym for cause & effect - yes.
If I treat enough people around me like shit, the probability increases, that I'll someday be dependent on someone I mistreated earlier. This person will be more likely to treat me like shit in return.
Karma as some mythical concept of 'reincarnation', 'cosmic forces' or some other BS like that - no.
"Karma" (falsely used) as a synonym for cause & effect - yes.
If I treat enough people around me like shit, the probability increases, that I'll someday be dependent on someone I mistreated earlier. This person will be more likely to treat me like shit in return.
Karma as some mythical concept of 'reincarnation', 'cosmic forces' or some other BS like that - no.
The definition of the word karma is "intentional action" and it's use is precisely in reference to the law of cause and effect. Having studied Buddhism as both a layperson and an ordained monk I'm quite clear on that concept. The way people typically use the word, as in "That's bad karma", expresses the cause and effect aspect of it and is therefore correct usage.
Karmic effects are not limited to just the consequences of your actions toward humans but all sentient beings, with the time frame and strength of the karmic result a function of your own character, the character of the other party, and your intent. Thoughtlessly killing a small insect has a karmic effect but it is much less than plotting and murdering a noble person, for example.
The period over which karmic results manifest is not time limited, although the strongest response is in the rather near term. I find the analogy of a system's impulse response to be helpful in picturing the concept. At each moment your self and situation are the result of all the things you have ever done before - an uncountably large number of events convolved with your personal impulse response, to use the systems analogy again. And every thought, word and deed you perform now will have an ongoing effect in the future as they all feed into the giant convolver of your existence.