Pleasure out of scamming people?
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Sorry I dont subscribe to soft sciences. I'll stick to hard sciences and leave the mysticism to the religious and touchie-feelie crowds ;-)
P.S. no such thing as evil... still.
You dont think your childhood shapes you?
"Many serial killers have faced similar problems in their childhood development. Hickey's Trauma Control Model explains how early childhood trauma can set the child up for deviant behavior in adulthood.[28] The child's environment (either their parents or society) is the dominant factor in whether or not the child's behavior escalates into homicidal activity.
Family, or lack thereof, is the most prominent part of a child's development because it is what the child can identify with on a regular basis.[29] "The serial killer is no different than any other individual who is instigated to seek approval from parents, sexual partners, or others."[30] This need for approval is what influences children to attempt to develop social relationships with their family and peers, but if they are rejected or neglected, they are unable to do so. This results in the lowering of their self-esteem and helps develop their fantasy world in which they are in control. Hickey's Trauma Control Model clearly shows that the development of a serial killer is based on an early trauma followed by facilitators (porn, drugs, and alcohol) and disposition (the inability to attach).[31]
Family interaction also plays an important role in a child's growth and development. "The quality of their attachments to parents and other members of the family is critical to how these children relate to and value other members of society."[32]
Wilson and Seaman (1990) conducted a study on incarcerated serial killers and what they felt was the most influential factor that contributed to their homicidal activity.[33] Almost all of the serial killers in the study had experienced some sort of environmental problems during their childhood, such as a broken home, or a lack of discipline in the home. It was common for the serial killers to come from a family that had experienced divorce, separation, or the lack of a parent. Furthermore, nearly half of the serial killers had experienced some type of physical and sexual abuse and even more had experienced emotional neglect.[34] When a parent has a drug or alcohol problem, the attention in the household is on the parents rather than the child. This neglect of the child leads to the lowering of their self-esteem and helps develop a fantasy world in which they are in control. Hickey's Trauma Control Model supports how the neglect from parents can facilitate deviant behavior especially if the child sees substance abuse in action.[31] This then leads to disposition (the inability to attach), which can further lead to homicidal behavior unless the child finds a way to develop substantial relationships and fight the label they receive. If a child receives no support from those around him or her, then he or she is unlikely to recover from the traumatic event in a positive way. As stated by E. E. Maccoby, "the family has continued to be seen as a major — perhaps the major — arena for socialization."[35]"
Serial killer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
problem 1:
You think wikipedia represents a reliable source of information. College papers citing wikipedia regularly receive F's for this exact mistake.
Problem 2:
All the people they cited in said wikipedia article practice soft science. Riddle me this? How do you explain all the people who had fucked up childhoods (ie most people) who don't grow up to be serial killers? Furthermore what makes you assume that the fucked up childhood was the cause rather than the symptom of a genetic pre-disposition towards douchbaggery as evident in the primary gene donors (the parents). That's the problem with soft sciences. They make assumptions and then fail to prove them out in a tangible and measurable way.
LOL! You totally set that up when you called him a "Cereal Killer," didn't you blok? Still funny tho...Lettuce be cereal bros
@apexSEORM: Like Kiopa_Matt said, Getting your kicks off of the misery of others is a very clear-cut description of evil. Sure those wacky psychologists may want to move their definition over to something easier to manipulate, but the general public has thought of evil as an appreciation of others' misery since before biblical times.
What say you to that?
The older you get the harder it is to empathize with many humans. I know because I was born in the Jurassic period.
Whoa, 4 posts by Sumit in one thread.
"Hard" science has proven that smoking makes people more likely to get cancer. The majority of smokers though, do not get cancer.
There is only so much genetic diversity. Males are biologically more prone to anger than females and serial killers are usually male, yet it is silly to blame it only on that. If we know that a killer was male and also that he was born with a mental condition, we still don't ignore the fact that he spent a lot of time locked in a closet. That would be bad science.
Are feral children the way they are because of genetics?
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PyUfG9u-P4]Feral Child Oxana Malaya - Raised by Dogs - YouTube[/ame]
"Hard" science has proven that smoking makes people more likely to get cancer. The majority of smokers though, do not get cancer.
There is only so much genetic diversity. Males are biologically more prone to anger than females and serial killers are usually male, yet it is silly to blame it only on that. If we know that a killer was male and also that he was born with a mental condition, we still don't ignore the fact that he spent a lot of time locked in a closet. That would be bad science.
Are feral children the way they are because of genetics?
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PyUfG9u-P4]Feral Child Oxana Malaya - Raised by Dogs - YouTube[/ame]
Your mentality isn't anything unique, it's actually very common in occupations featuring minimal responsibility and demanding customer service. For every 10 good customers, people, especially younger people, only tend to remember the one bad customer. Their attitude towards people declines into generalized hatred of humanity.
If you can be honest with yourself, you will grow out of it, and you will cringe in a few years when you read this post. Assuming your still in this industry, using it as an outlet for your negativity is usually a good way to put yourself out of business.
Would it also be a stretch to assume your clickbank income is only supplemental and that you work elsewhere, where you have to deal with a lot of people?
Or did this attitude actually come from your own business, pushing a bad product, yet convincing yourself that as long as people buy it, you are justified in keeping their money? So convinced, that you feel you earned that money even though you didn't deliver anything of value?
If it's the latter, definitely would suggest some time invested in introspection. Your thread indicates that you don't like yourself either. You're not proud of yourself either. Your choices, followed by your convictions that those choices were the right ones, are depriving you of genuine pride in accomplishments. You're essentially working for nothing. Short-term income, no sense of accomplishment, and no purpose.
If I'm remotely close, then your channeling that frustration toward your customers.
Instead of improving yourself, your self-destructing.
If you can be honest with yourself, you will grow out of it, and you will cringe in a few years when you read this post. Assuming your still in this industry, using it as an outlet for your negativity is usually a good way to put yourself out of business.
Would it also be a stretch to assume your clickbank income is only supplemental and that you work elsewhere, where you have to deal with a lot of people?
Or did this attitude actually come from your own business, pushing a bad product, yet convincing yourself that as long as people buy it, you are justified in keeping their money? So convinced, that you feel you earned that money even though you didn't deliver anything of value?
If it's the latter, definitely would suggest some time invested in introspection. Your thread indicates that you don't like yourself either. You're not proud of yourself either. Your choices, followed by your convictions that those choices were the right ones, are depriving you of genuine pride in accomplishments. You're essentially working for nothing. Short-term income, no sense of accomplishment, and no purpose.
If I'm remotely close, then your channeling that frustration toward your customers.
Instead of improving yourself, your self-destructing.
To add to the serial killer debate: Tough childhoods build enormous character in some children, when they overcome the adversities they are faced with young, they grow up to take on challenges head on. They are unstoppable in achieving their accomplishments because they never forget what it was like to feel so powerless, and still surviving their hardships.
The world can no longer dish out anything worse than they have already been through, arming them with a confidence few could ever hope to develop.
The world can no longer dish out anything worse than they have already been through, arming them with a confidence few could ever hope to develop.
And.. that relates to serial killers how?
BTW a perfect example of a tough childhood creating an amazing character is our beloved Manny Pacquiao. Read up on his childhood and you'll see how damn fucking tough it was.
On the other hand, this is how serial killer Ted Bundy describes his childhood:
"I grew up in a wonderful home with two dedicated and loving parents, as one of 5 brothers and sisters. We, as children, were the focus of my parent's lives. We regularly attended church. My parents did not drink or smoke or gamble. There was no physical abuse or fighting in the home. I'm not saying it was "Leave it to Beaver", but it was a fine, solid Christian home. I hope no one will try to take the easy way out of this and accuse my family of contributing to this. I know, and I'm trying to tell you as honestly as I know how, what happened."
My point was tough childhoods aren't what make people serial killers. As you also pointed out with Ted Bundy.
